He Left a Thriving Career to Follow His Inner Voice. Here's What Happened | Dylan Miracle
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (00:03)
Dylan, thank you for joining me today. I'm so excited that you're here.
Dylan Miracle (00:08)
Yeah, happy to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (00:09)
My gosh.
We were just saying that it's been almost a year since we actually met in person for the very first time at the founder OS retreat in Austin.
Dylan Miracle (00:19)
I know, I cannot believe how fast it's been, but I was telling someone recently how, cause we've only met once in person, but you are just a ball of energy and someone that is incredibly impossible to forget. So I'm excited to be talking with you.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (00:35)
That's so sweet. I really appreciate it. Yeah, I just loved following you even before I thought, wow, look at this young man, because you know, my kids’ age, my daughter's age. And I thought I love your energy, what you're doing in life, and not only what you were doing before, because you were running a real estate business with your dad. But recently I've been following you on Instagram and then on YouTube. And you just made a big life decision.
So tell me about what you decided to do, and what was the catalyst for this decision?
Dylan Miracle (01:08)
Yeah, would it make sense to give context to what exactly I was doing before? Okay. So I got into the real estate business when I was 20, after a long line of failed little side hustles that I had done from flipping popsicles on the outside of my dad's business to washing shoes and flipping iPhones in college, day trading in college, and COVID had happened. And I had an internship lined up because I thought I was going to be a financial advisor. Thankfully
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (01:13)
Absolutely.
Dylan Miracle (01:37)
to my future clients. I was not a financial advisor, but COVID happened. It was a script for me. And I decided to start working for my dad because he was the only one who was hiring during COVID, but he wasn't going to pay me anything. And I didn't want to spend my summers partying with my teammates. Not that I had anything against it, I just wanted to learn skills. And so started doing it reluctantly and fell in love with it. I fell in love with the investment side specifically. But I was just cold-calling underneath the bunk bed for two years in college while I was wrestling full-time and had a part-time job, and I didn't do any homework, obviously. So I would just go underneath the bunk bed, cold calling for fun with a buddy of mine. And it went two and a half years without a deal. Did my first deal in January of 23, and kind of hadn't looked back since. I was full steam ahead until about January of last year, when I had a pretty tragic event health-wise.
and kind of forced me to slow down. And that slowing down made me realize that I wasn't exactly loving what I was doing anymore because I had always solved for money, thinking that money was going to fix me, so to speak. And I've been very lucky to have made friends with lots of really successful people and realized that I was playing the game in ways I didn't want to play it anymore, and decided to take a leap of faith, as of a month ago, kind of why I'm at where I'm at today. But we had done a fix and flip business, buy and hold, wholesaling, that's kind of what we did.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (03:01)
Yeah. And you were successful. I mean, you're 25 years old. You're making six figures plus. You are starting to do more in terms of your personal brand online. Right. That's how we met in the same program. And you were teaching people, you started teaching other folks how to do what you were doing. Is that right?
Dylan Miracle (03:13)
Yeah. A hundred percent. I started making a little bit of money. and 23, about two and a half years into the business, I finally started seeing some traction and then 24 was just like bananas for before that, I had made like $0 in all of my ventures and I'd only given sweat equity essentially, and then making six figures plus
from the Delta of not having anything made me feel like I was just made of endless amounts of money. It was awesome. And so that being said, though, more importantly than making money, what I've always gravitated towards is teaching people stuff. So before I actually take money from people, I've only been good at buying stuff. I've never been good at selling it because I don't like taking money from people for whatever reason. I like buying stuff from people. So I started coaching for free to a couple of really high-level investors.
In our area, had coaching programs. So I thought, well, instead of me trying to just get more time from them, even though I paid them to coach me, how about I just coach their community on areas where they can cold call, because that's what I'm good at. And maybe I would get more access to them. So I started doing that just to kind of help them out, and realized I really like coaching. And so that's kind of what led me to found OS. I wanted to start scaling a coaching offer. I probably coach eight or 10 people on how to raise money, find deals, and underwrite them. Until I kind of decided to transition and do what I'm doing now.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (04:33)
So I love the story because I had a similar experience, but I waited until I was 47 to leave corporate and to realize all the things I realized earlier. I think what you realize is that money and the position and the title, maybe all the things that we thought we were going to have when we accomplished the things, weren't there. And so I love that you recognize this early, but you also dared to make the change and to say, I think I'm going to take another leap of faith and try something different. So how long before you actually decided a month ago that you were going to stop the business, not renew your lease, you know, all the things, because I mean, you not only said, I'm not going to do this business anymore. Like you're in this really interesting space right now. Cause actually don't have a place to live, right?
Dylan Miracle (05:30)
I think it started a while ago. I think I always knew deep down it didn't love real estate. And so I, at least I didn't love real estate the way I was taught real estate and looked at it as a means to an end and a way to make money and develop skills. think I knew that early on. That's why I think I was so reluctant. That being said, when I was skiing really fast on a mountain on my third time skiing last year, I ended up fracturing my L1 and L2.
And that took me kind of out of commission for a few months, or I'd say really a month where I couldn't really walk without a walker and stuff. Just sit on the couch, and it kind of forced me to slow down. And I think that voice had always been there that maybe eventually I wanted to do something else and follow my curiosity and follow something that I was interested in, but I didn't really slow down because I was just focusing on the next deal and making more money, and then.
I wanted to go to a different place, but I played my hand the way I thought I was supposed to. I had to follow these rules, I had to learn these skills, and make this money. But then, when I slowed down, I actually had to take an internal audit. And then that's when the voice that I had been quieting down for so long, that I had been suppressing, started getting really loud. And so instead of just listening to that voice, I did, truthfully, just start partying more. I was never really a partier. I started hanging out on the weekends more. Instead of stopping at the third cocktail, which is what I should have done, I had the fourth and like...
There were just a lot of things I was doing, just trying to have fun more so. And I started to almost detest money-making activities altogether because I just truthfully did not like what I was doing. It was easier to suppress that voice and to listen to. Eventually, I just started getting really reflective, and I'm like, felt like it was a maintenance year for me last year, but also a hard year in real estate too. And it'd been the first time I really had a ton of fun, but I didn't feel like I got a ton better. Like, at least in the way that I usually.
Dylan Miracle (07:15)
expected to and I didn't like that and the reality was is I'm like if I just keep doing this I'm not gonna be who I want to be and to cut out all the things that were distracting me so I could really listen into my voice because that was what I was using to quiet my voice so I cut out drinking, cut out nicotine, I cut out even dating for right now just to kind of really be able to quiet my mind and be able to listen to the voice I'm listening. So that's kind of it. Last year's been at most loud.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (07:39)
Yeah. Wow. So yeah, you were definitely distracting yourself trying to numb up. And we typically do that. Either distract ourselves, we'll numb ourselves out, we'll do all the things to run away, to chase away from the things that we need to hear. So when you quieted yourself, what did you actually hear? What was the voice telling you?
Dylan Miracle (07:43)
Yeah. We're just like, it was so obvious. was like, you should not be doing this. You should not be doing it. Yeah.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (08:08)
Yeah. And did you have an answer to what you are supposed to do? Or did you just hear stop and you'll figure it out?
Dylan Miracle (08:17)
A good question. I don't know that I really heard an answer other than stop. And I started asking myself different questions. My whole life has been running away. I think we have two pleasures. When I teach people sales, I say we have two different things that we do as far as motivators. We have running towards pleasure or running away from pain. And a big motivator for a lot of people is running away from pain. I do think it's good to use what you have to your disposal, but
I'd always run away from pain my whole life, based on how I grew up and just not having much. So I was running away from the figure of the cat and not just chasing the cheese. And then when I would chase the cheese, it was just to make me feel better for running away from the mouse. That was kind how I had done that. And so once I've solved my money issues, I no longer have anything really to run towards them like this; it's over. So, to be said, I didn't know what I was supposed to do. And I just started
trying to have pattern recognition. I'm like, okay, well, what do my most successful friends do? What do they all have in common? And truthfully, I just stopped trying to push the boulder up hills. I always force things. And now I'm kind of surrendering to the outcome and just truthfully letting the path eliminate as I walk it and follow what the voice inside is telling me, which is the voice is saying, walk that way, but you just trust me I'm going to take you to the good place, but you just need to trust your gut that this is going to guide you the right way. So that's kind of
I don't have an answer, but that's what I'm just letting myself be guided as opposed to forcing it.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (09:40)
yeah. I wrote a whole second book on that, Lanterns of Light, just illuminating the path in front. And so often when we're on whatever that journey is of transformation, discovery, spiritual journey, whatever you want to call it, because you might not even know at this point yet what it is, that is faith, is like trusting that it will be lit for today. So you don't stumble, you don't fall, you're not going to trip. Maybe you'll trip a little bit
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (10:05)
And that tomorrow or when you need to see what is in front of that will be lit further, but we don't always get to see the entire thing.
Dylan Miracle (10:13)
Yeah, totally. One thing I want to add to that, there's a really good book. One of my favorite entrepreneurs is Rick Rubin. He wrote a book called, I think, called The Creative Act Within. Yes, it's so good. If you guys haven't heard of it, you guys should listen to it or read But I think that's kind of the beauty in art. I mean, think we're all problem solvers and artists in our own way, whether you're in business or relational dynamics or whatever. And so
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (10:23)
Yeah, I've read it several times. so good.
Dylan Miracle (10:40)
The thing is, if you create art with the intention to sell the art, it robs the entire creative process because you're solving for the outcome. You have to just let art come from you, as opposed to you trying to force it. And so I think there's a lot of value in that because I think our consciousness, to your point about spirituality, whatever you believe, there is some force that is greater than us. And if we can just allow ourselves to be a vessel, we'll be pulled in the right way, I think. I think we're generally moving in a good direction if we can quiet the voice and allow ourselves to be guided.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (11:11)
Yeah, for sure. Mean, I believe that. So you've removed a lot of safety nets from your And many of us, we cling on to those and I think this is where, staying on that spirituality theme for a second, if you believe that there's something greater that knows better and that is supportive and benevolent and loves us and all those things, you can think that intellectually and yet still as a human, we still think we have to figure it all out
ourselves, which is why there's resistance to surrender and to trust and all of that. So you've let go of these safety nets, right? You're like, I'm letting go of my house. I'm letting go of the job. I'm letting go of knowing where my next paycheck is coming from. So what have you found in its place instead? Like when you surrendered all those things, what has come in instead?
Dylan Miracle (11:59)
Honestly, I don't know how to describe what's happened in my life recently, but I feel like I'm in the most alignment I've ever been in, and the things that are happening to me are things that I don't belong in a lot of these opportunities that I'm doing. And I'm just I'm letting myself really be called to whatever I'm doing. So like, I feel like I should do this. I'm going to do it really, really hard. I'm to go really hard at this thing.
I'm gonna just put myself in rooms I don't belong in. I'm gonna continue to do this. I started posting a ton of content. I'm doing as many, what I call side quests as possible. But more importantly, I've been really thoughtful about, like, thinking more strategically, because I've been so caught up in the busyness of the business of buying and selling houses, I just realized I had spent some time in Japan with some guys who were way more successful than me. One guy made close to a million dollars net, which for me is still a big deal because I'm not even close to that. And so that being said, he wasn't working all that harder than me. And so it kind of was frustrating in the best way, thinking, I was like, well, he knows stuff about the world that I don't know.
And so I just need to learn how to ask better questions and realize that he's playing the same game in real estate, but he's playing by different rules. So what rules can I play too? And then it started making me think of questions like what unique abilities do I have? What cheat codes do I already have access to? How can I create more luck in my life? What avenues can I start pursuing? And so, since then, I started essentially pitching like syndication deals because I learned I could even do that. And so I don't even know how to do it, but I'm just going to investors, who are doing the thing that I want to do, which is buying big deals and saying, Hey,
Dylan Miracle (13:28)
I'm just being me, and I'm like, hey, you guys are doing this cool thing. Can you tell me more? Here's how you do it. Cool. Awesome. Hey, I want to do this big thing too. You think there's an overlap. Every person I've done that to has said, yes, I said, if I bring you capital, would you also be down? Like, absolutely. So then I've got a hundred percent yeses. No. So my point is that I essentially found a way to buy big apartment deals. This is what I want to do. Create more value for people in a way that doesn't feel so grimy, which is what I was doing before. And I'm just pitching myself. I'm just selling myself. I'm not selling the idea, and the cool thing is that now I can buy apartment deals with none of my own money, none of my own experience, no collateral, no resources. I essentially get to skip go by accessing cheat codes or an app, which is connecting with people and being a people connector. And it's just been working. And so that's just one example of like me really realizing I'm like, if I can be thoughtful about how I want to move and be more strategic about it, I can move a lot faster without feeling like I'm needing to force things.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (14:21)
Absolutely. And the other thing, too, is that I've noticed that you're putting yourself out there a lot. You're posting, and you're actually sharing pretty raw, authentic, just what you're thinking about. me a little bit about it. Did you have any fear about being out there, putting yourself out there, being authentic, not heavily edited videos, or did you always kind of feel comfortable doing that?
Dylan Miracle (14:49)
Three and a half, four years ago, I was nervous to post content because I didn't want to be a guru. And then truthfully, I didn't want to be roasted by my friends. I found that out because of a conversation I had with a buddy at a gym. And he said, why aren't you posting? And I said, I don't know. He said, are you afraid of people commenting? I said, no. And he said, well, what are you really afraid of? I never thought about it. And I realized it was my friends roasting me. And so once I had isolated what I was actually fearful of, it made me feel silly. And I took action the next day.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (15:11)
Uh-huh.
Dylan Miracle (15:16)
Since that moment, I posted two to three times every week for the or four years. Now, the thing that I've learned recently, so I overcame that fear of posting once I isolated it, but I think I overthought the content. I saw the value in it. I can definitely see the value in having leverage and building trust at scale, but I was overthinking. I hired video guys; I was scripted heavily. I would use ChatGPT to help me polish up my scripts and all this stuff I paid.
A ton of money to be a part of the mastermind and the stuff that we had met through. And so I made really high-quality content, but the thing was, it just wasn't really reaching the way I still wanted to, but I was committed. I was really putting in, I probably spent $50,000 plus investing in my brand. And so all that to be said, I actually wasn't fearful of it, but again, just being called and not trying to force art. My buddy was referencing an influencer on the internet, and he said, you're on the same caliber.
Dylan Miracle (16:08)
You talked to me about the same stuff, and I had never thought about it. I said, you know, instead of me trying to force the art, I'm just going to document a thought I'm having in real time and post it on the internet. And I'm going to do it for 30 days. And I'm just going to try it just because, like, creatively it sounds kind of fun. I was mindful that my goal is not outcome-based. It's more identity-based. And I want to be rewarded for my creativity, my thinking, problem-solving, and people connecting. And so that kind of is an alignment to the identity I want to have. So let's do a challenge.
And I did it in the fifth post I did, I got 20,000 views when I was like, that was crazy. I was like, what? This is wild. Yeah.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (16:44)
I shared your videos with my daughters, and then they shared them with their friends. I think I told you because I remember the one you posted about, just being in your twenties and not having to have it all figured out. And it was just so impactful. I think it was such a strong message for anybody because whether you're in your twenties or you're in your forties or fifties, people still don't know what they're doing, and still they're trying to figure it out, right? If you don't get still enough, if you don't think about it. And also our identities shift. Like, sometimes we stay in places that we've outgrown. We stay longer than we should. There's that total fear, fear of like, uh-oh, do I come out of my comfort zone? When does it ever get comfortable? And I'm like, why is that the goal? Why has that ever become our goal? I don't think that's why we're here is to be comfortable. I think we're here because we are vessels that God gets to work through to do really amazing things in this world. And so
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (17:37)
That's always my prayer, less of me and more of the divine, whatever you call that. And so as you step into those new opportunities, it's like if we only rely on our own abilities or doing what we've learned at this point, there is no growth. But when you put yourself in those situations that are new and or uncomfortable, there's so much growth, there's so much potential if we just kind of get out of our own way.
So what are some of the things that you've learned as you've posted these videos now on this challenge?
Dylan Miracle (18:08)
First of all, I was way overthinking content. That's the biggest thing. I cannot believe, yeah, the difference in it. More importantly, I think I'm trusting in my voice that what I have to say is impactful, and I don't necessarily have to think there should be time to prep niching down an avatar. There is a lot of value to niching down your content and making sure it's catered to that audience, but my focus right now is just to like not niche down and just express myself and build trust with an audience at scale. So yeah, it's really allowed me to believe in creative flow, and I have something that people resonate with, because more than the views, I've had like over 400 saves on that big video and a couple that I just released, I've had well over 200 saves. It's making me realize that what I'm doing is working.
The more important thing is why I do these crazy things. I like to do these challenges. I just did a jujitsu tournament. I'm going to do a stand-up comedy show. The reason I bring these things up is that the single biggest frame that I think has allowed me to just trust in myself and do these crazy things is that I look at life through the lens of a video game. And I think of myself as like the avatar of the character of the video game. And so all of these little side quests are improving and get my character XP is what in the context of the experience points is what it would be called. And the more experience points you get, the more your XP bar grows, and then you pass the next level. And so I think we think too linearly about how we need to get somewhere. But I think if we realize that we're the avatar and we're the asset, we're the product, all of these side quests, all of these little things that we're doing are actually adding to us to make us more of a better conversationalist, to make us deeper as a product to invest in. you show people is that you're one, you're willing to take chances on yourself, two, it's not that scary. And if you fall flat on your face, like it's probably going to be a really good storyteller, and it's not a loss or a win, it's feedback. That's all it is.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (19:57)
Yeah. Nothing is wasted. I mean, I love saying that all the time. Nothing, none of our experiences are wasted unless you don't do anything with them, unless you the learnings and do something. Made me think of a book. Do you know Donald Miller? He wrote Story Brand. Maybe he's like a business author now. You may have seen So before he started that business, he was actually kind of like a semi-autobiographical author. So he wrote fiction. So he wrote a book, and then it turned blue like jazz. It turned into a movie. And then the screenwriters, who are turning blue like jazz into a movie, basically said, the way the book is written is actually not gonna make a great movie because there is a storyline, the hero's journey, which you just talked It needs to be kind of woven through a movie or no one's going to sit there and just watch you eat ice cream on the couch. Like that's boring. Nobody wants that. You need to have a store like someone who wants something, who goes through challenges. There's a climax. All these things happen. There's a resolution. Right. Et cetera. That's like the story of our life. So he ended up writing a book about that experience and what he learned about the hero's journey called A Million Miles in a Thousand Years.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (21:11)
And he basically challenged himself to do things he didn't want to do. He was really uncomfortable doing, put himself in situations personally with relationships, with his health, with things he never in a million years would have thought that he would do. And at the end, his entire life changed. And then what he learned ended up turning into StoryBrand, which is his business. So I highly recommend the book. It's pretty cool. Because I don't think he'll ever write kind of fiction or nonfiction like that again, but it reminds me of the story. So one of the things he did was travel. And I know that you also love to travel. I think we absolutely learned so much when we travel either solo, which I love to do, or with other groups of people. So tell me a little bit about what travel has taught you.
Dylan Miracle (21:42)
First of all, I'm glad you recommended StoryBrand because it's been in my queue, and I read the first page about 20 times and never finished a book. So that is telling me I need to prioritize. So I actually hadn't really been able to travel ever until a couple of years ago. I wrestled for 15 years, of my 11 months out of the year, I'd always be wrestling. I wrestled through college. So anytime I did travel, it was like a business trip. I went there to compete, get food, and come back. And when I did travel, I was cutting weight all the time. So it was kind of a miserable experience anyway. And so
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (22:07)
Yeah.
Dylan Miracle (22:30)
I really started to travel. I'd been dating this gal in college for three and a half years. We kept dating after, then when you meet someone in college, typically, you're not from the same area. So we'd go long distancing for a little bit and then end. I was really sad, and every time I get sad or something happens in my life, I want to do something hard that challenges me. Cause it just gets me out of it. It's always worked. So just do that every time. And so, which is why I'm side questing right that to be said, I was like, man, what sounds terrifying? Solo traveling. I'd never been out of the country. I never traveled by myself. And so I decided to go to Egypt for 11 days by myself, it's the most advanced, out of all the countries I could have gone to, that's like the most advanced one. Impossible language to understand. Didn't use Google Translate, but I ended up meeting a taxi driver in this town called Luxor, ended up calling him Uncle Ali by the end. I broke bread with him and his family in their little hut, a family of six.
Dylan Miracle (23:23)
I have a WhatsApp great guy, ended up meeting this gal out in Cairo, and made friends with her friends. They took me out in the Sahara. Well, after the tourists were supposed to be there on camels, right next to the pyramids, the police came up to us and were like, hey, he's got to go. Said, no, no, he's a local. He's with us. And so it really showed me, it was like, man, this is what? Like, I really like this. Also, a little bit reckless, to be fair, too, but it really inspired this deep love of traveling and connecting on a different scale than I was used to.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (23:45)
Yeah.
Dylan Miracle (23:51)
So, yeah, since then, I've been to South America for a month. I was just in Japan with some of my really good buddies. Traveling for me is one of the most healing things I feel like because I think it gives me a lot more empathy for people. It gives me a deeper understanding of the world. And it's also really good for creativity and being able to articulate your thoughts, how you think, and challenge your belief systems. I love it. It's one of my favorite things to do. I look at it. I don't like to travel like a tourist. I like traveling like Anthony Bourdain and kind of creating these random spontaneous things, and it's worked really well for So that's how I like to do it and why I like to do it.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (24:26)
We were just in And before I went, I watched, ⁓ I said, I wonder if Anthony Bourdain went to any of these places we're going to go to. And he went to this one cafe called Cafe Baba in Tangier. And we were walking around Tangier, and all of a sudden, we saw, we walked in, and we met the owner, and it was the middle of the afternoon, so no one was really there. And then we sat down, and we were just chatting with him, and we were talking about how he and Bourdain had, like, the Rolling Stones used to come there and do all kinds of interesting things. And so, you just sit there, and you're like, it's kind of crazy to think about what you can experience, the same thing as other people have experienced, you can take from the lesson of it. I don't know, travel is pretty amazing. So I'm glad that you're doing it. And I agree with you. I think when you travel, it's...
Dylan Miracle (24:58)
So cool.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (25:17)
You're still with yourself, but you leave all your baggage behind. Like, you can only bring so much with you. So I think of it like metaphorically, it's like, you've got to leave all your stuff behind. You can only bring certain stuff. And then also these other things that maybe your triggers, they all come up too. So you learn so much about yourself. Like, if you lose your luggage, you miss your flight, if whatever these things happen, and you're like, Ooh, this is how I respond during stressful situations.
Dylan Miracle (25:35)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah,
totally, totally. ⁓
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (25:47)
It's like there's always something to be learned even when you think it's be smooth. And similarly, you also now are couch surfing, right? So you're okay. So tell me what you are traveling with when you are going from place to place, because you can't obviously bring all your stuff.
Dylan Miracle (25:51)
No, no, I can't. The reason I decided to do it the way that I am is that I've always taken leaps of faith. I've been a big believer in that. But I jumped into real estate with my dad. So despite my taking an alternative route and all my friends were getting corporate jobs, I did take an alternative route. But still with my dad, it wasn't really truly betting on myself. And so I figured if I'm going to do it, I got to do it. And so I sold
half of my stuff or got rid of half of my stuff. I literally condensed all of my life into three tote boxes, a couple of trash bags, and a big Patagonia bag. And that's literally all I have to my name. And I'll still probably reduce all of it. And I should so friend to get rid of everything completely. I feel like I'm shedding like an exoskeleton because I can kind of step into this new, new period of my life lighter and to be however I want to be. I could go with the blank canvas, essentially was still having all the skills and connections I have now, which is different than when I was 20. And so
Dylan Miracle (26:58)
Yeah, I pretty much only have a certain amount of clothes, which is awesome, and I'm bringing jujitsu gear with me. I'm bringing workout bands. I bring a tent in my Tesla, so if I don't have a place to stay, I can camp somewhere, and yeah, that's kind of all I have with me in my car. I have a couple of clothes. I have some workout stuff and Content gear, so like my cameras and all that stuff, and a tent just in case I don't have somewhere to stay. That's all I have and my crazy heart and ambition, that's how you bring that to. Yeah.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (27:27)
Tell me what's on the list. Do you have a list of places that you're interested in visiting this year?
Dylan Miracle (27:32)
Yes, I do. Letting myself be pulled, primarily. I am traveling with intention. I'm only spending time with people or going to places that I really want to go. I'm very specifically traveling to go see people that I know that either inspire me, I feel loved and supported by, and that I feel like can add value to. So there are certain people in my life that I want to support. Like the buddy that I'm staying with right now, he's a big runner trying to grow a fitness brand online. So I spent
a week with him, well, I'm still staying with him now. This is my last week, but I spent an entire week documenting this big challenge. He did it at 252 miles in his backyard. Every four hours, he'd run six miles. He's unbelievable. Did it for Parkinson's. He's a great guy. I want to see him win. And so I built a content plan for him, using the skills I've learned, like how to use all these cameras. I was documenting everything, helping him build a YouTube video. And so I just want to do stuff like that and find ways to add value to my friends' lives. And I think that if I keep doing that, it'll work well. So right now
my last week in the Valley of California, so like the Fresno area. I'm going to be speaking at an event in front of like two to three hundred people in Vegas. I'll be there for a couple of days, couch surfing, and then speaking there, and then I have someone who's going to be recording for me, which is interesting. And then I'm going to spend a few weeks in Salt Lake City, Utah, with my buddy Brawley, and spend some time with him. He's going through a transition period himself, so it'll be good that I'm there for him and get to help him out.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (28:51)
So I know you're videotaping and recording it that way, but are you also journaling or keeping notes on everything that's happening?
Dylan Miracle (29:00)
I journal probably every two or three days. My content now is me just completely documenting everything in real time, how I'm thinking and stuff, no expectation of outcome. And also, I do a lot of voice notes. So I'm not a big note taker. So anytime I have a crazy thought, or I'm going through a hard time or a good time, I'll just record my phone. So I document.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (29:16)
Okay. Yeah.
That's awesome. I would say definitely document because you never know. Like my daily journaling turned into two books. You just never know what you're going be able to do when you... Yeah, because even what you're putting out into the world, it's still just a snippet of a thought that you're having. But there's something about writing, either typing it or journaling, that goes a little bit deeper.
Dylan Miracle (29:30)
Wow, wow, that's actually good to know.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (29:47)
to your internal and you're going to say
things there, even questions to yourself that could prompt something else. And I think Rick Rubin talks a lot about that as well. And so start your morning pages, and just kind of keep track. I don't know, not gonna tell you what to do. That's what I was gonna do.
Dylan Miracle (30:00)
No, love that. No, no, no. I deeply respect you, and I like the way you live and how you are with your family and the business that you have built for yourself. So anything that you say, I 100 % and don't think of it as like you're telling me what to do. You're giving me advice, and I'm going to listen to the advice.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (30:14)
Yeah, yeah,
I want to see what comes out of that. It's just going to be pretty amazing because other people want to do what you are doing, but just haven't dared to say yes yet. So if people want to follow you and they want to learn about your journey, tell me where they can find you. What's the best place that they can find you?
Dylan Miracle (30:35)
Yeah, Instagram is probably going to be the best place where I post most frequently. It's a Dillionaire321, DYLLIONAIRE321. And then also the same tagline on YouTube. doing one a month. I'm not trying to overdo it, but I'm just staying consistent with those things. The main goal behind my content right now is not to monetize. I've done that tons of times. Genuinely, my goal is to document all thoughts I have, how I'm living my life.
And to be a guinea pig for people who, if they are thinking about taking a leap of faith and betting on themselves, they can literally watch me do it in real create magic and luck for myself on how to kind of ladder up skills and stuff. So if you want to be a part of that journey and see and send it to people that might get some value out of it, that's why I do what I do.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (31:19)
I love it. So good. Dylan, first of all, I would love for you to come back after this year or however long you're choosing to do it, because I want to hear all the learnings, all the things that you've done, of course, at any time, please. But also, what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?
Dylan Miracle (31:37)
To me, living the width of your life is to live without limits. And to impact that, think it means to be free from the opinions of others. and trust in yourself to live absolutely your most authentic. Doing that requires you to take chances, take risks, and fail upwards. I think life is a lot more fun that way. And if you look at
life through a lens of it's not winning or losing, but it's only feedback, it becomes a lot more fun because your life is a story that you're writing and you're the author. And if you treat it like that, you essentially build a story worth reading. So I think that's my thought on it.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (32:17)
I love it. So, so good. Well, I can't wait to follow you and your hero's journey. Dylan, I just have so much respect for you, and I'm just really proud of you. I hope that doesn't sound really weird, but I just love you basically have said, I'm following my inner guidance, my voice. I don't know exactly how this is going to turn out, but I have faith that it will. So, continued success to you. Keep in touch.
Dylan Miracle (32:28)
Not at all.
Yeah.
Sounds good.