How Your Body Stores Pain and How to Release It
(YouTube Transcript)
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (00:03)
Kristine, thank you so much for joining me today. I'm so excited to have you.
Kristine Genovese (00:08)
And that I'm so excited to be here too.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (00:10)
I spent some time really looking at your website and your Instagram. And I was so excited for our conversation. And I think my audience, too, is always very curious about wellness and holistic healing. And I'm curious, tell me a little bit more about when you decided that this was going to be your life's work, where you're focusing on healing and really identifying healing at the root level.
Kristine Genovese (00:36)
Well, it actually came ⁓ at the ultimate timeout that we all received that was March 12th of 2020. I had been a corporate turner ground specialist for most of my career. So fixing companies, like figuring out how to get the people, processes, and technology all to flow, so they could meet the business outcomes. And on that day, I got a call letting me know that my services were no longer needed.
I was in complete shock because I had just gotten a performance bonus. I was in year one of a planned three-year turnaround. And I was actually in a doctor's office because my now-was-been was having a biopsy done on his prostate at the time. So it was a complete shock in my life. I had never been fired before. I had always met or exceeded expectations. And so I texted the COO, who was my boss, and I said, I just got fired. He says, me too. I'm like, what?
So what had happened is we had prepared the board deck to show that had we been able to hire the people we'd been asking for in the fourth quarter, not only would we have in the we would have exceeded it. So basically, what the CEO did is he walked in, took our board deck, fired the two of us, and told the board that we didn't hire enough people, even though he was the one telling us to hold the line on expenses.
He went on a hiring spree. Karma's got a way of working things out. He was investigated by the board and removed from office. They put a crony in his place, and they summarily ran the company into the ground. So it no longer exists today. So what happened to me? All right. It was the ultimate timeout. So I really feel like the divine plucked me out of corporate America, or I'd probably still be there.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (02:08)
Yeah, what did you do?
Kristine Genovese (02:17)
I had a nine-month runway because I was let go, had a decent exit package to allow me time to really consider what I really want to do with my life. I think a lot of us get caught in that zone of excellence, as Brandon Burchard would say. It's the place where people identify with that role, people see you that way, you get paid really well for it, but something's missing.
And you get to a point in your life where you want to step into your zone of genius. And so what happened to me was this incredibly powerful meditation where I just had tears streaming down my face. And I had this realization that it was time to bring the soul intelligence method into the world. That literally my soul's intelligence screaming at me that I couldn't go back into corporate America. And so doing a lot of meditation and journaling,
I really believe I received the divine downloads to put the soul intelligence method together.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (03:12)
Wow. So for those that maybe don't meditate, I've had this type of experience before, so I got the nudge short my first and second book, but I talk a little bit about this meditation. So you're sitting in meditation, and did the term Soul Intelligence Method like come to you? Like what came first? Was it a vision of what it was? Was it words? What did it look like?
Kristine Genovese (03:36)
Well, the first thing that came through was just this soul, like this image of going back into corporate, and my whole body, like I had a visceral reaction to that idea. So I knew that was completely off the table. Well, nobody was hiring at that point anyway. They're all trying to figure out how to work from home. Now, fortunately for me, I had always worked from home and traveled, so it wasn't as much of a shock, but what came through was...
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (03:46)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kristine Genovese (04:00)
I had learned how to use a book of charts and a pendulum years prior. And it was a very religious system. So it didn't quite fit who I was, just very restrictive. And I got this image of putting a book of charts together that actually were meant to help move energy.
right, and to help people heal physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and energetically. And so that's really what I saw. I saw myself actually putting the charts together. And then, I had a message drop in that you need to follow your soul's intelligence. And I went, yeah, that's what it should be called. It should be called the soul intelligence method. And so that's really where it dropped in.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (04:44)
So tell us more, what is the soul intelligence method?
Kristine Genovese (04:48)
Well, sure, it's a book of charts and a pendulum, and there are lots of different charts. So I've got physical healing charts. There are mental and emotional charts. There are self-limiting beliefs. There are things about career and work. Some charts can help us shift energy throughout our energy centers, the chakras. So it's a book of charts that's about 30 charts in total, plus prayers and things to help release ⁓ energy.
So, for me to kind of back up, just the reason the work works is that it's founded in a method that was documented in the 1950s by Dr. Alexander Loewen, which is called bioenergetics. What that says is that if you're not feeling well physically, then mentally and emotionally, you're probably not doing so hot either.
which is kind of common sense, right? But when you think about 95% of doctors’ visits are for chronic conditions, things that just won't heal, there's gotta be an underlying reason for that to stay stuck in the physical body. And so I really believe our physical body is the barometer to our subconscious mind, where all of that trapped energy and emotion is stuck.
And it comes in the form of old patterns and archetypes and old traumas and self-limiting beliefs. I'm sure you are familiar with the work, does the body lie, of the wonderful things we've learned, even with Louise Hay, about what the underlying root cause of dis-ease in the body is. Because essentially, emotion is energy in motion.
And when energy is no longer in motion, that's when it pools within the body, and it causes dis-ease, or dissonance in the frequency, and that's when you go to the doctor. So what I do is I partner in the field of functional medicine with healthcare providers, doctors, nurses, nurse practitioners, to really get to that underlying condition, that emotional state that is holding somebody locked in place
to dis-ease so that we can then pull that energy up and out of the body and release it, because once energy is created, it has to transmuted into something else. Energy can't be destroyed, we know that. And once I do that, then they work with naturopathic doctors to actually take the right nutraceuticals, vitamins, supplements, things they need to get their body to heal.
And so it's an incredible opportunity to help people heal on every level, physically, mentally, emotionally, sometimes in all ways, energetically. And I think people forget, we're energetic beings. If we go back to elementary school, we're all protons, neutrons, electrons, and electromagnetic fields. We just forget that because we're physical, we're corporal. They are always like, well, how do you do this remote work? Don't you have to be near the person? And I said, well,
How many things do you stream onto your phone? How does that happen? It is frequency and information that travels to a receiver, and it shows up on your phone, your laptop, or your television. It's the same thing with our bodies. It comes in either through our ears, if it's music or vibration, or the pineal gland, it's information that's going in or coming out. So we received that. And so, I think it's getting people to remember that we are energy and everything is energy.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (08:11)
Yeah, it's amazing. I absolutely believe that we are energetic beings and that all of the things that we feel physically are also connected to the other parts of us. We cannot compartmentalize. I think we've tried for too long, and Western medicine, I think, has really kept things separate. So when you were working with, you said doctors and nurses, like, how do you find folks who are open to talking about doing the healing more holistically?
Kristine Genovese (08:28)
Yeah. Well, that's the coolest part. I get the opportunity to work with functional medicine and integrative medicine providers because they're already open to holistic healing. The woman who wrote the foreword to my book is a triple board-certified MD, but she's also a naturopathic doctor. I'm writing a chapter in a book for an OBGYN who's also a naturopathic doctor.
Think people are starting to recognize there's a spectrum of healing. It's not one or the other. Sometimes you do need medication to get the body to adjust. But the goal is to give it what it needs so it can heal itself. It's actually built to do that. And so if you can do that more naturally, that's a better way to do it because a lot of our medications just mask symptoms. They don't actually solve the problem.
And so that's what I love about functional medicine. They really go to the root cause of the problem. And most of them start in the gut. And one of the things I wrote about in this is that most things happen in the gut and start in the gut. Because if you think about what the stomach does, it has two functions. It holds food and processes food. It also holds emotions or processes emotions or doesn't. And if you think about it, you're doing something, you're really nervous, like you get butterflies in your stomach or something really bad happens, you feel like you got punched in the gut, that is our emotional center.
And if you think about your chakras, the third chakra is all about self-esteem, how you show up in the world, how you feel about yourself, and those interpersonal relationships. And when you think about it, life's all about relationships. No wonder all that serotonin is produced in our gut, the happy hormone, all the good and bad bugs reside in there. So what energy is going in there, and what are we like ignoring or processing? And so, Hippocrates said 2000 years ago, health begins and ends in the gut.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (10:26)
Yeah. And also with the over-processed foods, with the depletion of the soil that we have right now, with genetically modified ingredients, with people wiping out all of the good bugs in their gut. Anyway, what has the impact then been for us energetically as humans?
Kristine Genovese (10:30)
Yeah. Well, it's interesting when we start looking at what are all the foundational reasons people get disease right in the body. The first one, the biggest one, probably is stress. Okay. We're all in fight or flight most of the time. Most of the day. Even if it's just something like you get this alert on your phone, it can make you crazy.
So it's that stress, because what stress does is it lowers the body's immune system. So we're more susceptible to disease in the body. So that's the first thing. And often causes inflammation throughout the body, which is also something that tends to bloom, monitoring our stress and the stressful situations, what are the ways we can manage stress? The next one's toxicity. You kind of touched on some of that, right? The glyphosate or the Roundup that's used in the soil,
When we talk about toxicity, it's not just the chemicals that we use in our home. It's like, what are we listening to? What are we watching? Who do we hang out with? Right? When that phone rings, and you see that person's name, you're like cringing to pick it up. That's like a great sign of an energy vampire. You don't want to do that. Right? So managing that toxicity. Poor nutrition to get to your point about the soil. It's been depleted since what?
The 40s, something like that. So we have to supplement in order to get what we need, because we're not going to get it even from the best foods. And then lack of movement is usually something as well. Sittings become the new smoking; we don't move as much as we need to. And then the last one is the genetic component, but that's only about 5%. And typically, if someone has something that's come through genetically or generationally, it's usually part of their life plan, their life purpose. They're here to do something.
And that's why it's locked in place. But the rest of those things I just mentioned are all within our control. And that's the good news, that we can actually shift it and get our health to improve.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (12:36)
When people contact you, do they usually work with you because they come directly to you and then you connect them with the naturopaths, or do they sometimes go to some of these other doctors, and then they also bring you in to help supplement what they're working on? Yes. Yes, to both. I figured it might be.
Kristine Genovese (12:51)
Yeah, the answer is yes. Yes, it's really cool. I actually did a webinar recently on how the future of medicine is frequency. And I shared several case studies where I had done some energy work for someone, and then how I pulled a naturopathic doctor once I was able to pull what was out of the body.
For example, I started to work with a gentleman, and he and his wife were just at their wits’ end. It was like, we've tried everything, traditional medicine, natural path. We don't, you're like our last hope. And I was like, my gosh, you know, so this gentleman had a lot of pain in his stomach and his thoracic area in his chest, and his breathing was labored. could, he had a nose cannula on. It's like taking oxygen as I see him on the zoom. And I can tell he was in a lot of pain.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (13:26)
I don't know.
Kristine Genovese (13:41)
As I go through the session, I can see his pain lessening. I can see him breathing normally. I can see him relaxed. And what I found in the session is that most of the energy that was stuck in his stomach wasn't even his. It had been in place for 50 years since the Vietnam War. He had the energy of his entire company that he was holding in place in his stomach. And so I was able to get the energy up and out.
And so then I had him work with a naturopathic doctor and pharmacist who realized the medications he'd been taking for depression and anxiety, the traditional medicine usually thinks more is better. The body gets used to the amount that you're being given, so they give you more. It's kind of the model. Whereas in naturopathic medicine, you usually need less over time because your body adapts and heals.
Anyway, body had been producing too much serotonin, which was causing the pain in his stomach, because that's where most of the happy hormones produced is in your stomach. So we had to give him something we call ComDay, which is a nutraceutical company that I work with. And that has a lot of GABA in it, and that counteracted the symptoms. And so us partnering together, this man is finally out of pain, and he's been in and out of hospitals with a quote-unquote phantom pain that nobody could solve. So it's pretty incredible when you partner all these great minds to really heal someone. Not the first person to say the future of medicine is frequency, that was actually Einstein, but it is really coming to pass. I just reported
The Cleveland Clinic is actually recognizing energy medicine right now, and I read several studies that have been done where, using frequency, they're able to break the outer cellular membrane of cancer cells. And they duplicated that on human cells in the Petri dish, basically. And they did the vibration therapy with
the mice that they injected, and 99 % of the mice did not have a recurrence of cancer after doing the frequency, because the cells are vibrating healthily now. They destroyed the cancerous ones. So I think it's just people becoming more aware of what's really going on and how our bodies really truly function. I mean, we're mostly water, we conduct electricity.
Our heart actually is like this vortex, which has a six-foot-wide energy field around it. It's infinitely more powerful than the brain that only has a two-foot-wide energy field. So we were taught to stuff our emotions. There's no crying in baseball, you know, like all time in corporate America. And that is the worst thing you can do. The absolute worst.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (16:17)
Yeah. It's so interesting because I think I remember reading even that there were studies done maybe in the 50s earlier where with sound therapy, which was vibration, and that there actually were some early cancer studies, which were then, I think by the American, medicine, I forget the organization who basically said, we're not going to pursue this any longer.
But I think there were some earlier trials decades ago that actually proved that vibration and sound and frequency were able to help from a cancer perspective for healing.
Kristine Genovese (17:02)
Yeah, did a study and I cited a couple of other studies as well, but that one's kind of top of mind. They just produced that, I think, in 23. So it's kind of Illness is big business in our country. And so think a lot of things, when the research and you look back to the time of Rockefeller and others, that's when these oil barons started the pharmacy, big pharma, and they provided funding to the medical schools to make sure that they were taught in a certain way. And so any naturopathic methods were pushed to the side and basically debunked, basically said, nope, they don't work. You have to do it this way. So it's fascinating when you start doing the research, really go, wow, wow.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (17:47)
Yeah, it's interesting. And people are very protective of that. Like any questioning of something is just considered very woo-woo, or you're a quack if you start to look at more natural methods, things that have been around for thousands of years. I remember when my kids were small, my youngest would get ear infections, and they wanted to put tubes in. I said, let me go to Dr. Andrew Wiles website and find some natural ways to make some oil
drops with garlic. And we went back in 10 days, her ear infections were completely cleared up. There was no redness. There was no sign of it. And the doctor's like, what'd you do? And I was like, well, I chopped up some garlic, and I put it in oil, let it stay overnight. And I took the garlic out, and I warmed up the oil and put drops. And he was like, yeah, I'm sure that wasn't it. And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure it was. That's the only thing I did.
But it's much easier to dismiss something like something that actually doesn't cost you anything to do. One of the other things that I'm really fascinated about with your method, and I would love for you to go a little bit deeper, is that you say that you don't actually have to revisit the trauma or the pain itself in order to transmute it, the energy. So tell me a little bit more about what that looks like. Some people, I think, are really scared of having to relive something that they either are aware of or may not even be aware of that could be stored in their body.
Kristine Genovese (19:11)
Absolutely. So I equate it to therapy. When you go to therapy, the idea is to talk about what happened, when it happened, and as much as you can recall, because what they're trying to do is to bring that emotion up and out of the body, to elicit a reaction. So whether that's screaming, crying, we need to do to get it out, and what I do with the method is I'm able to put, more or less, I set up a sacred space. So we make sure that whatever we shift, the intention is that it goes back to the divine for transmutation into love and light, as opposed to landing on any other person, place, or thing, because look, we're electromagnetic beings. So we attract energy things, people are a lot of what I clear for people is not even theirs. It's coming from someone they're close to or an incident that happened. They didn't even realize they had been impacted.
Anyway, just in terms of how this works, I mean, I can't say that every once in a while someone will just because it's a release. But it's, you don't have to go back to that incident or visualize or have an impact. I'm going to go, oh, this is when this happened. For example, I just worked with a pharmacist been suffering from a debilitating disease. She came to a group
intelligence session that I did, offer group sessions once a month typically. She said that it was the first time in three years she had felt peace. And so we did a one-on-one, then I did a follow-up with her, and I saw that she had been held at gunpoint in her pharmacy about 10 years ago.
And she's like, my God, I remember when that happened, and I said, well, that's what lowered your immune system. You were in such fear for so long that it was gonna happen again. It crashed your immune system and now we're working together energetically to shift things up and out of the body and she's also partnering with another naturopathic doctor to help her with
symptoms from long-haul COVID that won't heal, won't shift up and out of the body, as well as a chronic fatigue syndrome that also started and amplified when that incident happened. So it's stuff like that. Like she didn't have to relive the trauma, but it was like this realization of something that was in her subconscious came to the conscious mind. And she went, that makes so much sense.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (21:28)
Wow, that's amazing. Did you know that you had this intuitive gift before 2020?
Kristine Genovese (21:35)
Well, that's kind of an interesting story. In my 40s, I think you can just read people, you're like, ⁓ you get a feeling about somebody. Everybody's got a hunch. If we listen, all tap in. But I remember I was on a trip, I did a mother-daughter trip with my mom. We went up to St. Augustine, which is like the oldest city in Florida, and has a reputation for a lot of haunted buildings. But she used to love, like, going into historic homes and gardens. And so we went into this one place, I think it was a jail, actually. We were in there for maybe a minute and a half. And my mom goes, I'm getting a headache. I go, yeah, I feel something in my I don't wanna be in here. And so we walked out of the building, and she goes, I don't feel good. I said, okay, Mom, let's sit down. So we sat down on a bench, and I held her hand, and I said, all right, I just want you to close your eyes, and I just want you to pray for a minute that it'll shift.
And so then I actually did the energy work to remove the entity that had attached to us, because a lower force is attracted to light. And so then I said, okay, how do you feel now? She goes, I feel much better. And I go, we should probably talk. I had never told her that I had a gift, and I was in my 40s. My mom is about 21 years older than me. And yeah, and so she told me that when she was a little girl, she used to see when people were gonna pass, she could see their aura turn gray, and it scared her. And she was raised Catholic, and so she was very afraid of her gift. And so she asked the divine to turn it off. And I don't wanna see this anymore. So it went away. And then she went into traditional. She eventually wound up running a hospital laboratory, but she went completely the other way. I don't wanna have anything to do with anything. And so it's really cool.
She's really come full circle since she started to go through the change of life. She was like, all right, there's nothing that's helping me with night sweats and all this discomfort. And she started to research naturopathic methods at that time. And so that's really what I think brought her back to the other side. And so our relationship is great. My mom is like my best friend. So she is very supportive of the soul intelligence method. She actually has me do energy work on her now.
Kristine Genovese (23:44)
She's not like scared, she gets it. My dad passed, I was getting messages and taps, and things were happening. And I said, he's trying to talk to you, Mom. I go, why don't you ask to have your gift opened again? I mean, you're retired. It's okay, you're only hanging out with me. But as I said, it's just something that we all have. We just have to choose which Claire to tap into. For me, it's Claire
Kristine Genovese (24:08)
chills, the truth chills, or a feeling first. I'm gonna feel something. She would see something. She had the clairvoyant piece. Some people hear the clairaudient. And my second is really claircognizance. That's really that knowing, which is for me, when you're in alignment with your soul intelligence, and you know you're on your mission, your vision, your values, your purpose, you're in alignment.
Kristine Genovese (24:31)
That's when you're living your best life.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (24:34)
That's amazing. Thank you for sharing that, because I can't imagine losing your job was really what started all this. So I'm not surprised that maybe you were distracted and you didn't always use it and leverage it. But it's interesting. It helps me understand why I think you trusted what you heard or what you felt in terms of the method. Can you just walk us more tactically through what a session would do?
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (24:59)
Maybe in person and also online would look like, because you did mention that you do these virtually as well.
Kristine Genovese (25:04)
Yeah, most of the time I do it via Zoom. So doctors love it when I say, there's 100 % compliance, meaning the patient's actually going to do what they need to do in order to get the work done. Which basically means you just show up to a Zoom. That's it, and I just want you to be comfortable, in a chair, just so that you're relaxed. And you're either going to share with me what's going on with you, or I'm just going to ask to shift what's ever in your best and highest good.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (25:07)
Okay.
Kristine Genovese (25:27)
And usually it's a combination of both anyway. And usually, the divine is really coming through me to tell me what shift for that person. So I set up a sacred space, calling your guides in, my guides in, making sure that I'm connected to the divine and that we're in a good space to shift the energy. And
the book of charts, the way it works is there's a table of contents that I have. And so once I get set up, I ask, okay, where do we start? And then I just start flipping through the charts, depending on whether we're shifting, toxic, masculine or feminine energy, whether it's like an archetype or a pattern that's been going on in your life that needs to shift, whether it's a self-loving belief where, you don't believe you're good enough and that clouds your vision and creates this whole torrid story of
wherever you've been in your life. So it's all of those things or sometimes I'm using the physical charts, the medical charts, for example, I worked with a to look I haven't had a period in three months, she's older, so she's like, I'm not pregnant, but I haven't had a period in three months, I don't want my husband to touch me.
And I'm really struggling in my business. I said, well, those things are all related. So let's look at your sacral chakra. That's the seat of womanhood. And that area was 90 % blocked. So I spent the entire session clearing out what was in there. The very next morning, she sent me a text, and she said, my God,
I got my period last night, I let my husband hold me, and I had three new emails from new clients in my email. So she's like, you got everything flowing legitimately. So yeah, so it's like you can see something that quickly. And I try to describe it to people as like, you go to a chiropractor for a biomechanical adjustment, to get your spine straight so that everything can flow properly.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (27:05)
I love that.
Kristine Genovese (27:21)
You come to me for a bio-energetic adjustment for the same reason, so that the spine might be able to course correct, because we've moved that energy that's been pulling in the body up and out. So it's a combination of all of those things. Yeah.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (27:33)
That's amazing. Tell me again, the name of your book, because I want people
Kristine Genovese (27:39)
Or I have it right here, and it does look like Yes ma'am. Yeah, it's available on also went out to LA and recorded it myself on Audible, which was a blast. I've had several people who have listened to the Audible and tell me it feels like they're actually getting a healing because it's in my voice. So that's kind of cool. So it's also on Kindle, pretty much any format that you want, and certainly available on my website as well.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (28:00)
I love that. Yeah, what is your website if folks want to look and see how they can work with you?
Kristine Genovese (28:12)
Sure, it's soul, S-O-U-L, Soulintelligencemethod.com. And you can find out about sessions on there when I do free group work. You can also check out workshops. ⁓ I have a course, which is what I'm really called to do in the world. I really wanna teach more people this method. I wanna see this in wellness centers across the country.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (28:28)
That's wonderful. I definitely will include all the links in the show notes. Kristine, love the work that you're doing. I think it's amazing that you're using your gifts and that you are really bringing this into wellness spaces, that you're helping people in person and online as well. And I can't wait to listen to your book. I do love listening to them and also getting the paper to write on them.
I think I'm very interested in scheduling a session. So I'll be reaching out. think it'll be fun. Yeah. I love trying new modalities. I ask everyone a final question on the show, which is what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?
Kristine Genovese (29:07)
Well, I really think it's what I mentioned before, right? Being in alignment with your mission, your vision, your values, and your purpose, you feel like you're part of something greater than yourself. And I really feel like soul allows me to help heal people or help them on their healing journey, and to make an impact in the world, and to help raise the consciousness of the planet in general. Because when you heal yourself,
There's that butterfly effect. Since we're all connected, the butterfly effect is that if a butterfly immediately changes its course, the natural course of flight, it could cause a tsunami on the other side of the world. So I always try to remind people, look, self-care isn't selfish, it's sacred. And when you start working on you, don't just affect the people around you, you actually can impact people that you don't even know.
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (30:00)
Amazing. Thank you so much, Kristine. I've loved our conversation, and I'll be in touch very soon.
Kristine Genovese (30:06)
Absolutely, Aneta. Thank you so much.