Episode 150 transcript: Mindset Over Hustle: Michelle Sera on Manifesting a Life You Love in Just 7 Minutes a Day

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[00:00:00] Michelle: The thing that held you back was your mind. And if you didn't know how to navigate that, the chances were slim that you were going to reach the goal you wanted for yourself.

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[00:01:26] We often hear people wishing us a long, happy, and healthy life, but what if the length isn't what matters most? What if instead, it's the breath depth and purpose of each day that matters most? Welcome to the Live the Width of Your Life podcast. My name is Aneta Ardelian Kuzma, and join me weekly as I interview guests who made changes in their own lives to live more fully with intention, gratitude, and joy. Be prepared to be inspired by their stories of how they shifted their mindset, took courageous action, and designed the life that they always wanted to live.

[00:02:01] Welcome back to Live The Width Of Your Life Podcast. My guest this week is Michelle Sera, and she's the founder of Elevated Mind, which is a company focused on helping you create the business and life that you desire, no matter your age, your stage, or starting point. She's a bestselling author, a certified happiness coach, a marketing mentor, a Freedom Formula facilitator, a seven-figure copywriter.

[00:02:26] A human dog and cat mama, farmer, gardener, and dragon boat racer. She started her business 15 years ago and has been working behind the scenes marketing multimillion-dollar coaching businesses. I have her book, which I love to journal on and do the manifestation work. We had such a great conversation.

[00:02:45] Michelle also worked with the same editor that I did when I wrote my book and we just had such an awesome conversation really about, if someone wants to start a business, run their purpose, how they start, what are some of the daily manifestation practices that we can do? What are some of the keys to it? It was a great conversation and I think you'll enjoy it. Take a listen. Michelle, welcome to the live, the Width of Your Life podcast. I'm so excited to have you with me today.

[00:03:09] Michelle: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it greatly.

[00:03:12] Aneta: Yeah. And where are you calling in from? I always like to ask.

[00:03:15] Michelle: The mountains of North Carolina. So I'm close to the Tennessee border. I've been near the Lachen mountains.

[00:03:21] Aneta: Oh, beautiful. Have you always lived there?

[00:03:23] Michelle: No, I've been here now for about, I've lost count. Maybe seven years. I could be way off. I have been in this area before. I have lived all over the U S a little bit outside. Coming back here was my declaration of I'm not moving anymore. This is So it.

[00:03:38] Aneta: Wow. That's beautiful. There's so many places in the States that are just so stunning. So how did you decide that you were going to settle there?

[00:03:46] Michelle: Originally I am from the deep south in Georgia. I grew up in the middle of nowhere two miles down a dirt road. Absolutely nothing out there. The mountains though have always felt like home to me. Every time I have been in this region, it has called to me and has always just felt like the place I want it to be.

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[00:04:03] Aneta: good. And I was so excited to talk to you too, because you and I are connected through our editor, George. I've mentioned his name podcast, because he's introduced me to the most amazing women. How did you find George?

[00:04:18] Michelle: I found him on, I believe it was Upwork. I had made the decision that I needed to go ahead and find an editor partly to get me to get it done. To get the book done.

[00:04:29] He was such a saving grace. He was so very patient because I was a mess in terms of getting it done. I didn't have everything ready for him and he was so good at guiding me and helping me see parts that I hadn't seen, what I should do here or there, as a really great editor can do, but just having the patience to see me to the finish line, I think was just worth more than anything.

[00:04:52] Yeah.

[00:04:53] Aneta: He's so amazing. And I found him on Upwork as well. If you've never gone on there, there are thousands of profiles and it definitely felt to me like divine intervention was like, okay, here's his profile. And then once I talked to him, because I was like, I need to see you on zoom or I need to talk to you. I just felt like such a connection. And so comforted. And was that your experience too?

[00:05:16] Michelle: Absolutely. He's a cat person. I have dogs and cats and in the middle of getting the book done, my beloved cat passed away 15 years. And so he was so very gracious. He was just having that, understanding and the connection and so very kind.

[00:05:31] And Yeah, I agree, of all the profiles on Upwork his response to me there were things that he said that were just like, okay, this person has to be it. That's just too coincidental or synchronistic.

[00:05:47] Aneta: Absolutely. So tell me a little bit more about your book.

[00:05:50] Michelle: Yeah, sure. So the seven minute shift is a process that I developed primarily for people who are just starting out in building their business and they're really coming up against this. And they do want to manifest. They may be familiar with manifesting maybe, very well experienced in it.

[00:06:09] But again, when it comes to building a business, that's something entirely different, and it can dredge up so much that gets in the way of creating the outcome we desire. So I developed the seven minute shift process as something you can very quickly do in your day to get beyond that analytical mind.

[00:06:26] The part of your mind, that is throwing up all the sometimes irrational, we'll say often unhelpful emotions. And that will get you past that and help you raise your vibration. Early on when I began coaching I always wanted clients to begin meditation practices. And I realized very quickly, just because it was something I was very familiar with and comfortable with and could do, not everybody could, at least in the beginning. Or it just wasn't the right thing for every person. So that's where the seven minute shift came out of was something that is faster, easier, and can get you to a similar place.

[00:07:04] Aneta: Wow. That sounds extremely helpful. And I also encourage my coaching clients to do meditation if possible, but tell us more about how did you come to develop the seven minute shift and was it something that came to you? Did you channel it? Or was it something through experiences that you noticed was helpful with your coaching clients?

[00:07:23] Michelle: I think it was a little bit of all of that because it was an one evening that I was sitting and reading. And what I was reading was not related to it at all. It was probably some of my fun kind of sci-fi fantasy, like escape books that I read all the time, and seven minutes just popped in my head and I was like, seven minutes.

[00:07:41] And I immediately started thinking about what if I could get my clients to a better place, elevating their state of mind in seven minutes or less. And I thought, all right, so there's some importance to the seven minutes. And I started going through if I had no other tools, what could I give them?

[00:08:00] What could I walk through quickly? And then that's how the process developed.

[00:08:05] Aneta: That's amazing. And so once you had this process and you had this idea, did you know that you were going to turn it into a book right away or were you toying around with what is this?

[00:08:15] Michelle: I pretty quickly knew that I would create a book. The challenge though, it's funny, I'm a copywriter but the challenge of writing a book was huge. Because I had these ideas in my head of what it needed to be. And so when I finally gave myself permission with the seven minute shift to say, you know what, write something That's more like a workbook and a book It's short and easy to consume in a day and work through and that it changed everything

[00:08:44] Aneta: And so from the time that you decided you were going to write this book to the time that actually was published, how long was that?

[00:08:50] Michelle: I would say that it was still about A year because I was working on it myself, and was pulling things together and then it was probably about if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong. It might have been somewhere between 4 and 6 months. Once I reached out to George that I got it done.

[00:09:09] Aneta: Me too. Isn't that so funny? You try to do it on your own. You're like, okay, there are professionals who love doing this and they've done it before. And it's, we all need a guide. And so when did you publish your book? How long has it been out now?

[00:09:21] Michelle: November of, let's see, 22, I believe.

[00:09:25] Aneta: Okay.

[00:09:25] Michelle: Again I may be wrong. I know it was November, but I'm pretty sure it was 22 yet.

[00:09:30] Aneta: And what's so interesting, he was working on my book at the same time then. Yeah. Isn't funny?

[00:09:35] Michelle: Oh, wow.

[00:09:35] Aneta: Because I published in December of 22.

[00:09:38] Michelle: Ah, okay.

[00:09:40] Aneta: Yeah. So maybe he started right after yours. Because ours was a little crazy accelerated timeline. So you have a company called elevated mind, and I know that the company's focused on helping people create businesses and lives that they desire.

[00:09:55] So tell me a little bit more about, when you started the business, and what you've learned during the process of helping people design these businesses and lives that they love.

[00:10:03] Michelle: Absolutely. So to tell you that I'll tell you a little bit about my background because that is connected to it. And so my background, as I said, I'm a copywriter, but I am a marketer in general. And so I have worked in online marketing for over 15 years and spent many years behind the scenes of multimillion dollar coaching companies.

[00:10:23] And one in particular, starting out when the team was literally four people bringing that company from just over a million to over 15 million at the time that I left in revenue. And during that time, I wore many hats, copywriter, email marketing manager, lead coach digital product creator, funnel builder, all of these things.

[00:10:44] I even would have clients who were in this company's upper tier coaching programs fly in and spend a weekend with me in a coworking space in the larger city nearby to, get some intensive work done on their funnels. And during that time, I met tons and tons of people, as you can imagine, I coached thousands of people online and many people in person.

[00:11:06] And I realized there was this pattern emerging that it didn't matter who you are, how much money you have, how much you invested or didn't invest, how much knowledge you have experienced, et cetera. It wasn't the thing that got you to success in your business.

[00:11:20] The thing that held you back was your own mind. And if you didn't know how to navigate that, the chances were slim that you were going to reach the goal you wanted for yourself. And sometimes it was incredibly heartbreaking. Being someone who's very empathic, it was difficult to experience it over and over again.

[00:11:39] And I think that's what really motivated me to dive deeper into mind management, manifesting, and happiness. And that's what led me to create Elevated Mind.

[00:11:54] Aneta: Did you ever struggle with mindset yourself?

[00:11:57] Michelle: My entire life, My entire life, I tell people all the time and my clients, especially that I am not because people, when they hear that I'm a certified happiness coach, they think happy go lucky, everything's rainbows and I struggled for years and years with depression and I would be someone who would have random catastrophic thinking throughout the day.

[00:12:23] No control over the direction my mind would take me in or at least I didn't feel like I had control over it. So I am my best client. It's been an incredible journey, just as I've said about, building your own business dredges up so many things. Me too, same thing for me. So not only were my motivations to help people get past this very clear pattern and block, I mentioned as being the mind, but it was for myself as well.

[00:12:55] Aneta: What did you do to get yourself out of that thinking?

[00:12:59] Michelle: The very first thing, the point at which I can say, if I go back, and this is related to manifesting if I go back about probably 12 years. I had just gone through a divorce, after 23 years of marriage, I had two teenagers at home, I was starting over completely. My ex husband was military, so I had spent 20 plus years moving every 18 months on average, so I did not have a quote, career built up.

[00:13:29] And I was working at a box chain store and completely exhausted and I was sitting on the sofa one evening just breaking down in tears because I was so so tired and so unhappy and so uncertain of what to do next and out of a really pretty much desperation said I'm just going to pretend that everything's great. Everything's perfect I'm going to just close my eyes and imagine this beautiful peaceful mountain valley, and everything is wonderful.

[00:14:03] It was literally to survive in that moment. It was literally to survive. And so I would do that as much as I could. And it was probably about a month after I started doing that, that I was at work. I was managing a print services department. And I had a woman come in who needed help with a brochure.

[00:14:24] This brochure was for a non profit organization who gave grants to women who had experienced abuse. And I helped her redesign the brochure and get everything printed. And as she was leaving, actually, she walked away and then she came back and she said, we have all this money to give away, but nobody's applying.

[00:14:46] And she just smiled and walked on. So that evening I applied and I did receive a grant from them within about a week. And I used that to start a copywriting business on the side. And that went from one thing to another.

[00:15:00] Aneta: That's amazing. Did you always love copywriting?

[00:15:04] Michelle: I always loved writing. And I've always, of course, loved business. So I just put the two together back then. Now I had written copy, I will say, because I had worked as like a virtual assistant from time to time. So I had written before, but never had I solely dedicated my attention and time to copywriting.

[00:15:26] We do have certifications today, but we certainly didn't have formal training or degrees in copywriting, for online business. So it was a very different approach to writing for me.

[00:15:38] Aneta: Yeah, that's so true. And it's such an important piece of business because it takes so much time and not everyone is really talented at that. So they need a good partner like you. So if someone is curious or wants to start a business, there's been thinking about starting a business that maybe is aligned to their purpose, but it seems so big, so crazy.

[00:15:58] They don't know how to get to from where they are today to where they want to go. How do they start? What are some of the things that you would coach people on?

[00:16:05] Michelle: First and foremost, working with someone like you, finding their purpose because that's so very key. I didn't figure out my purpose till much, much later in life, and had I figured that out a little sooner, things may have sped up a little bit for me, but I will say that's so very important because when you don't know that and you're building a business, you are going to try so very hard to fulfill that need, that knowing, and you will save a whole lot of time by figuring that out first.

[00:16:36] So figuring that out, when you figure that out, you're going to probably pretty quickly know who it is that you want to in turn help. And then those people, figuring out what it is that they struggle with the most, what is their biggest desired outcome, and what kind of solution can you create to meet that.

[00:16:56] Create a marketing plan, and then most importantly, these two things is put some daily practices in place to elevate your own state of mind and your vibration set a success frequency. Over the years, the things that I've learned have been so very profound. And recently, I started I set up a challenge for myself to meditate more.

[00:17:21] I meditate daily anyways, but now I'm meditating up to three times a day. This is solely for me and for my own reasons. It's not necessarily what I recommend. But what I've learned in the process is you can set a success frequency. You can tap into the feeling of that. When we do, we practice different manifesting techniques or for that matter, even meditation, we might tap into something that we feel so very strongly for a moment.

[00:17:48] When you do something consistently, you learn to hold that frequency, and that is very key. Putting those daily practices in place, and of course, learning how to manage your mind so that you don't get derailed. I equate it to, in terms of manifesting and mind management are like two sides of one coin. And you really can't have one without the other. Those are the things, like those are the key things that I would recommend to anyone starting a business.

[00:18:18] Aneta: Absolutely. It's so interesting because I started my business about five and a half years ago, and I think I underestimated just how important it is to focus in on mindset, to feel all the fears and to just sit with them and to work around and also the daily practices.

[00:18:36] I also know that I have to do my daily practices, like my devotion is so important to then help me into the discipline part of my business. But what are some of the other things besides meditation that you personally do? And maybe some things that others that are listening if should look into as well.

[00:18:54] Michelle: Yeah, this is the fun part. I have a membership called Advanced Manifesting and I created this solely to dump everything I know and everything I've learned and continue to learn around manifesting so that others could have access to it. And so it might be daily practices are very unique to the individual, but they also change.

[00:19:14] They changed for me. So it might look like meditation and it might look like a certain technique. So for example, I have one called the quantum council and I do this right before I go to sleep, which is asking a certain question formatted in a certain way, so that not only does the brain get it and understand it has to find a solution but you're also tapping into in that state when you are just about to fall asleep, you're tapping into something I believe greater, right?

[00:19:44] Something maybe quantum field, right? Or the original energy, whatever we want to call it. It could look like that. It could look like a lot of inner work, and this is key. I will often equate this to when it comes to manifesting that it's this road that's straight ahead of you, and you know if you just stay on this road that you're going to get to where you want to be or who you want to be or have, do, or become.

[00:20:06] And as you're traveling on this road, you realize it's littered with debris, and the debris is the fear, doubt, and the worry, and the beliefs and the reactions. And you can get bogged down and stuck in that debris so that you can't move forward. You may even get off the road completely and just give up.

[00:20:23] So the inner work is what removes the debris, gets it out of the way, so that you can manifest so much faster. And so some of the daily practices may be the inner work. It may be the mind management, although that's something I teach a little bit further along, but it's also learning your brain and how it works and why.

[00:20:44] So it's all these pieces. It may be scripting or journaling. I have exercises in there as well that address that. So again, it's unique to the individual where they are, where they're starting. It may change from time to time, and actually it should because any routine can get old. For me, right now, my three meditations a day, and generally one advanced technique that I'm applying, whether it's in the evening or it might be throughout the day. And of course, always mind management.

[00:21:17] Aneta: For your meditations, are they different each time? Do you do a combination of different types of meditations?

[00:21:24] Michelle: I've studied many different, and practiced many different disciplines of meditation over the years. And what I have found is my favorite, is guided meditation or meditation that is music based. And the reason is I am one to often find myself in stuck in the analytical mind. So the guided meditation or music gives my mind something to do as I go beyond the analytical mind.

[00:21:55] Now I can sit in silence and meditate as well, but what I find to be the most releasing and the most joy inducing is when I have some sort of guided meditation. So that is typically what I'm doing right now, but it can change.

[00:22:10] Aneta: Yeah, I love mixing it up. Sometimes I like a nice quiet Vipassana and other times, like you said, put the music on and just curate. I have playlists I curate and I combine it with breathwork now. Now they do so much breath work. I love doing breath work as part of my meditation because I just find that it's a much faster drop in and helps quiet the thinking mind much faster. And I know for those that are listening that think, wow, three times a day, that seems excessive.

[00:22:39] Michelle: That's for me.

[00:22:40] Aneta: It's something I love though. It's just something that now I look forward to all the time. So it doesn't feel like it's a chore or like I have to go exercise. It's more I get to go meditate and just reset.

[00:22:53] Michelle: I agree 100%, yeah.

[00:22:55] Aneta: Yeah. So there's a lot of information about manifestation. It's a buzzword. Some people have a lot of misconceptions around it. How would you explain manifestation or even like what you've seen as most effective when people are trying to bring something forward that they want in their life really, which is what manifestation is.

[00:23:14] Michelle: So there is both, at least in my experience, there is both a spiritual and a scientific side to manifestation. And so I will often, although I address both and I lean into both, I will often lean more heavily into the science of manifesting. So that means understanding again how the brain works, right?

[00:23:34] What's going on when we say setting a vibration or raising your vibration or setting a frequency, understanding frequency and how that works in the world. And. understanding some of the quantum physics. For me, that's something that I love doing, but it can be a bit of a rabbit hole and confusing for a lot of people.

[00:23:56] So it's not something that I go heavily into. However what I have found is that Between frequency and electromagnetic field, we generate something when we bring our intention, attention, and expectation of outcome to the forefront. When we can do that and bypass the analytical mind or all of those reactions and fear, doubts, and worries, something really incredible and powerful happens that we can't fully explain.

[00:24:33] We can explain aspects of it scientifically to a point and then we're like, I don't know. Something just happened. We can't say it's coincidence. It's just something more. So I believe that we are innately born and able to do this as human beings. It's just, it's normal.

[00:24:49] It's something we do all the time. We are not aware of it. It's not to say that we can control everything. I don't believe that. We can, however, influence the experiences we have in life. And we can certainly change the way we experience and react to everything that life throws at us.

[00:25:07] So manifesting is certainly about action and doing. We are physical beings in a physical world. There is a heavy component too, though, that is about your state of mind and the frequency you're creating. So therefore, if we look at it from a state of potential, matter being this sea of potential that can take on any form, anything, as we observe it and decide with intention, attention, and expectation, then there is a big mind factor and how you are able to focus in on that, if that makes sense.

[00:25:47] Right?

[00:25:49] Aneta: Absolutely. And so what are some of the mistakes that people make when they're trying to manifest if they're like, Oh, I've tried it and it isn't working.

[00:25:56] Michelle: A big thing that people, that most of us hear about manifesting, is that you have to feel it before you have it, right? And that is true. So we try to feel what it's like to have the thing that we want and often what we're feeling more so is a desperation because we don't have it. There's a very big difference between that but we don't realize that early on like you're wanting something as a result of not having and that's a very different feeling and frequency and vibration.

[00:26:27] And this is where happiness also comes in, but being able to focus on a desired outcome, but being perfectly okay that it isn't here right now, is a key piece of it. And so that's a common mistake, or I shouldn't even say mistake, just you don't know. You don't know until you begin to do the work.

[00:26:48] Dipping in and out of, because this was me early on, manifestation practices. Here and there when the need arises as we said, it's really a daily practice thing to more consistently influence your experiences. So those are the two big things, is understanding what the feeling is that you want to generate, how to do that, and being able to do that consistently.

[00:27:16] Aneta: And I think feeling it before for me, it's so much about just living in a state of gratitude and just feeling so grateful for the things that are already present. And I always tell my clients is hold the vision that you want for your life, but you're living right now and the existence that you're in right now, there's abundance and blessings all around you all the time for the most basic things.

[00:27:40] And when we're able to appreciate that already, we're not waiting to live in some future date because we have things today that we didn't have before that we wished for. And we don't celebrate those things. It's so important to be grateful and also just to celebrate every little thing that comes our way.

[00:27:59] Michelle: Very true. And I agree with you the thing that I find in working with clients is even just getting to the point where they can do that is sometimes challenging because the mind management piece. They don't understand what's actually happening on a day to day basis in terms of your emotions and reactions and things.

[00:28:19] So being able to set that aside. Makes it so much easier to feel gratitude for that matter, happiness. I do believe that cultivating happiness is a skill that you have to learn. Because I sure didn't know how to do that.

[00:28:33] Aneta: We're not taught it in school necessarily on a subject. Yeah. How do you work with clients? Because you are a happiness coach. So tell me more about what that means and who are some of your ideal clients that you work with?

[00:28:46] Michelle: It's interesting. The people that I naturally attract are generally women who are over 50 and they either have some sort of wellness business or spiritual based business. They are not mainstream. So mainstream marketing, or at least the pace, the mainstream pace does not work for them.

[00:29:07] They're going to spend more time feeling into something and whether it feels right. And they are more focused on living in their purpose and sharing their gifts than anything else. The way that I work with clients, I have my advanced manifesting membership, which is where everyone and anyone can begin, right?

[00:29:27] That gives you the tools necessary to start implementing the daily practices. Then I have another membership that is due out by the end of the year, fingers crossed, which is my coach tools. And this is very marketing focused. So this gives you a lot of the like done for you, lead magnets, marketing training, AI tools that I have built.

[00:29:49] And I use daily and some other things that are very marketing focused. Then I have my happy and successful mastermind, which is where we work in a small group, I have monthly calls, Voxer coaching, accountability support, and empowered workshops that focus on marketing, so we can dive deeper. The bulk of my clients elevate through those tiers, and that's how I work with clients.

[00:30:17] Aneta: I love that. That sounds so good. How many people do you like to have in your mastermind? Typically?

[00:30:23] Michelle: I do it in different, so I may have multiple pods at any point in time. Because I keep it small, I generally know more than eight in a group because that way I'm able to still give individual attention.

[00:30:37] Aneta: Yeah.

[00:30:37] Michelle: Because what we work on those calls we certainly will work on marketing and they can bring their copy, they can bring their strategies, any of their marketing assets to me and I will review.

[00:30:47] However, most of the time, what we're working on live is mind management. As well as manifesting energy and anything that they feel is getting in the way of achieving the goals that they have in mind for their business.

[00:31:02] Aneta: I love that. I think it's such a good number too. And do you interview people before you welcome them into the mastermind?

[00:31:10] Michelle: I have not, and that's generally because I've already had some kind of engagement. On occasion, I will have someone who is referred to me. And so I've not had any engagement with them yet, but generally I've had some kind of conversation with them in different formats. They've been in my community a while and they come into happy and successful.

[00:31:29] Aneta: That's wonderful. Can you share any high level, still respecting confidentiality, maybe some wonderful wins that some of your clients have had employing these skills?

[00:31:38] Michelle: Certainly. So there are multiple manifestations, so whether it's something in personal life as simple as money showing up to clients, showing up to opportunities to speak or present to other groups. I've had another client who is on track to reach his goal for over a million in revenue.

[00:32:03] And that has happened, again, many manifestations of just simply clarity, purpose in terms of his business and what he wanted to be able to help his clients achieve and how that was going to come about. That's a big thing is I know what I want to help people do, but how.

[00:32:21] Yeah, it's just numerous things. And I think the big thing is with my clients is watching them be able to get to that point of experiencing happiness at will, right? Being able to bypass the analytical mind and watch the flow happen. Watch it all unfold.

[00:32:43] Aneta: So beautiful. So if folks want to work with you, what is the best place that they can find you?

[00:32:49] Michelle: You can go to theelevatedmind.com and you can learn all about everything there and the different programs. There's also a four part audio series, crossing Inner Thresholds, that you're welcome to listen to. And yeah, you can also catch me on LinkedIn as well. I post there quite frequently. So yeah, those are the best ways to find me.

[00:33:10] Aneta: So good. And remind us again of when your programs are starting in case folks are interested, the mastermind.

[00:33:18] Michelle: The mastermind is ongoing. It is actually a monthly subscription. So you are free to cancel at any time. I like that because I want you there because you want to be there and you're ready to do the work. And if it isn't working for you, then my goodness, I don't want to hold you there.

[00:33:36] Although I have yet to experience that with my clients, which is such a wonderful thing. But I want you to have the freedom of that choice. I would say come into it with the idea that four to six months worth of work is going to make the biggest shifts, right?

[00:33:53] Yeah. So anytime. You can come in anytime.

[00:33:56] Aneta: That's wonderful. We'll definitely include all those links in the show notes. And then Michelle, I ask a final question of all my guests, which is tied to the title of the podcast, which is what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?

[00:34:08] Michelle: I love that. I love that so much. For me it is being able to experience all the human emotions of sadness, grief, anger, happiness, joy, love, compassion, frustration, and still have a smile unbidden on my face because it's something that you feel deep in your bones and deep in your soul. That experience is undescribable, but it, to me, that is how I live the width of my life is having learned that skill and being able to feel that at any point in time, no matter what's going on is pretty

[00:34:47] Aneta: It's beautiful, Michelle continued success to you. I can't wait. I'm going to download the book and and order it today. The seven minute shift.

[00:34:55] Michelle: A seven minute shift, yes.

[00:34:57] Aneta: And that's available everywhere that we can

[00:34:59] Michelle: On Amazon, yep. Of the typical process,

[00:35:02] Aneta: I know. What did we do before Amazon, right?

[00:35:05] Michelle: Yes.

[00:35:06] Aneta: Go to bookstores, but so excited for all of your continued success.

[00:35:10] And if anyone's listening, they've got a business and need a little additional support, strongly suggest you reach out to Michelle and yeah, hope you have the most amazing day.

[00:35:20] Michelle: Thank you as well.

[00:35:21] Aneta: Thank you for listening to today's episode. If today's conversation inspired you to dream again, break out of your comfort zones or reflect on what it means to you to live more fully, then please follow this podcast because every week you'll hear more stories from people just like you who took imperfect action towards their goals, created more joy and are living the life that they always dreamt of living.

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