Episode 15 transcript: How to balance career, creativity, and motherhood with Brenna Rudary

 Episode 15: How to balance career, creativity, and motherhood with Brenna Rudary

Podcast Introduction

We often hear people wishing us a long, happy, and healthy life. But what if the length isn't what matters most? What if instead? It's the breath, depth, and purpose of each day that matters most. Welcome to the Live the Width of Your Life podcast. My name is Aneta Ardelian kuzma. Join me weekly as I interview guests who make changes in their own lives to live more fully with intention, gratitude, and joy. Be prepared to be inspired by their stories of how they shifted their mindset, took courageous action, and designed the life that they always wanted to live.

Guest Bio

 Today's guest is Brenna Rudary. Brenna is the owner and artist behind Brenna Claire Calligraphy, which provides luxury and bespoke calligraphy for brands, corporations, and events. By day, Brenna works in marketing helping lead social activities and strategies for KeyBank and outside of her nine-to-five. She is building her thriving calligraphy business and working with brands such as Tiffany and Company. Spotify and Louis Vuitton. In addition to our role as marketer and calligrapher, Brenna is also known as Mama to Mackenzie and to a little one on the way together with their husband Brian. They're raising their family in Shaker Heights and they spend as much time as they can outdoors exploring Cleveland. Welcome, Brenna to the show.

Aneta: Hi Brenna. Thanks so much for joining today.

Brenna Rudary: Thank you for having me, Aneta. I'm very excited.

Aneta: I'm so excited to have you on here and, I have been following your amazing journey on Instagram. So, I was so excited to catch up since we used to work together and see each other regularly, which is great. Now, one of the benefits of social media is, especially during the pandemic, that it has been able to keep up with people and see what they've been doing when we couldn't see each other in person. So, for those that don't know you share a little bit more about yourself and also, a little bit more about your Calligraphy business.

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. Awesome. Okay. So, my name is Brenna Rudary. I am a calligrapher. I have my business is Brenna Claire Calligraphy. I work primarily with weddings and wedding-related events. But I have also recently expanded to working with luxury brands, which is exciting. I'm sure we'll get into this. But that is just one part of my story. The other part is I still work full-time in the corporate world. It's funny when I tell people I went to school for commercial photography in psychology. Ever since college, I've been working in the financial space. So, I don't know how those added up, but here I am. So, yeah, I work in marketing for KeyBank and I've been there for almost seven years now. My love for creativity and art still runs deep. So, it's been great to be able to express that with my business. That has been I think it's been about six years now since I launched. Yeah, and on top of all of that, I'm also a mom and we are expecting another baby in March. So, we're very excited, my husband and I to kind of welcome this new chapter into our life.

Aneta: So, exciting. Congratulations!

Brenna Rudary: Thank you!

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Aneta: I watch your Instagram posts and your videos and so one, I do want to talk about what you've done with your calligraphy business because I remember years ago when we first talked, you were doing wedding invitations and you were focusing on the wedding space. Now, I've seen you do things for Tiffany and some other brands and so, I want you to share sort of the evolution of how you were able to take something that I don't even know how you got into calligraphy, so maybe share how you got into calligraphy and then how did you evolve it from what you were doing initially to what you're doing today?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. So, when I got engaged, I was very type A and I knew what I wanted to do. All of the decor and design. That also included the invitations and the signage. So, I took a calligraphy class, and then I just realized I could learn so much online through YouTube. So, I taught myself and after my wedding, when it was all done, I realized, wow! I liked doing that. It really likes to set my soul on fire and I started this new skill that I realized I was very good at and I didn't want to just stop at my wedding. So, I also loved planning my wedding. I just love stories and celebrating that. So, it was a seamless fit for me to start my business and still be involved in the wedding space. I was very lucky to work with a lot of great stationers and wedding planners in the area that would hire me to do the envelope calligraphy. Mostly envelope calligraphy and then that also went to like seating charts and welcome signs and things like that. Then, I would say, right before the pandemic. I started realizing, wow, there's this need for calligraphers and artists to be on-site in stores with brands like Tiffany to do calligraphy. I didn't know of anyone in the Cleveland area doing that. Yeah, I follow some calligraphers that are in the fashion capital areas of the world. So, I would see them doing this all the time, every weekend, multiple jobs and I just thought, wow, that looks fun. Like, that's my next chapter. Yeah. So, I would start to push myself out there as a brand calligrapher. My first job was with Louis Vuitton and that was exciting and so it kind of snowballed from there. It's great. It's great people-watching and it's great window shopping. I always have this little mental shopping list in my head when I do these jobs. Maybe one day.

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Aneta: Well, I don't know if they pay you in goods or if they, how they pay you, but I'm sure you can negotiate.

Brenna Rudary: Right.

Aneta: How cool to say my first luxury brand was doing stuff for Louis Vuitton. But then once you did that. Did that open up the opportunity to work with Tiffany and some of the other brands that you are local, you're currently working with?

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Brenna Rudary: Not necessarily. So, I was able to add it to my portfolio and I was able to say I work with this brand. But, I do think it was sheer luck that they reached out to me and I knew I can't just wait for other similar brands to reach out to me. So, one day, put together all this marketing material and I went to Tiffany's. I went to a few other brands in the area and I just remember being so nervous and I just thought, I have to do this. Like I have to put myself out there.

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Brenna Rudary: I went into these businesses and said, hi, is there someone here that's in charge of events where the manager I can just introduce myself to and just said, Hey, I'm a local calligrapher. Here are some samples of my work. If you ever need a calligrapher or an onsite artist. This is usually what they'll refer to as any upcoming events. Here's my business card. That's how I got Tiffany's, and I'm very proud that I did that day because Tiffany's is my favorite client. I love going there. The team is so kind to me. They're very welcoming. I feel at home there. I've been there three or four times now in the past two years. So, I do think that having the courage to go out to those brands and introduce myself was very important. I have a few brands that I wanted to go out to within the next week or so, and I've been putting it off because I'm just like, I get nervous, but then I remind myself, wow, look what came from this because I did this once before. Yeah, it was a lot of putting myself out there and truly like that phrase, if you build it, they will come like, you can't just sit there and wait.

Aneta: No, that's so true. So, for those that maybe don't have active imaginations, tell us some of the things that you're able to do using calligraphy and also engraving because I know you have different tools as well. So tell us some of the things that you've been able to do with these brands and also just on your own.

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah, a lot of the time it'll be around events like Mother's Day or holidays like Christmas shopping, things like that. Where they are having a lot of people coming in to buy gifts for others and so they'll come to me up to my table and have a gift message or gift card written out. Calligraphy is styled in the script and it's truly an element of surprise and delight for these customers. When you think of luxury brands like Tiffany's or Louis Vuitton, those are people who don't need to have additional marketing to make sure that they're coming back. Usually, if you're loyal to Louis Vuitton. You're going to be coming back. You're a repeat customer, right? Same thing with Tiffany's. So, the opportunity to have an onsite artist or a calligrapher is a way for them to just feel like, wow, I'm being paid attention to by this brand that I am truly investing a lot of my money in. That's what I hear from the clients when they come. They're always this is such a nice thing. How much does this cost? I always say, it's complementary and provided by the company and the brand. They're just like, this is amazing! Because it's a nice way and usually, it's on Card stock that has Louis Vuitton's logo on it, or Tiffany's logo.

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Brenna Rudary: So, they have something happy on Mother's Day and it's in a beautiful script with the logo on it. It's a nice little addition to the gift that they're already purchasing from that brand.

Aneta: I love that! So, if someone, an individual, wants to work with you. For special days to do how would they do that? What's the best way that people would be able to connect with you for maybe if I wanted to do something for Christmas, for the family?

Brenna Rudary: Yeah. So, typically people just reach out to me through my website. Fill out a contact form and then I'll just get an idea of what they're looking for. So, recently I did custom vows that a couple had written for each other. They just wanted it personalized and framed into it. It was on handmade paper and so they had a vision for it. I just helped them come, make it come to life and so, I love doing commissions like that and special just projects one-on-one with someone.

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Aneta: I love that! It's so interesting because for a while we've heard of fast fashion and we're all about convenience. But there's something so beautiful about taking the time to have a handwritten note or to have a very special message that goes along with the gift, which becomes a memento that you save forever.

Brenna Rudary: Yes. That I really think about my wedding clients and sometimes you'll hear like, well, weddings, that's like a one-time client because how many times is that person going to get married again and hire you again? But, they can hire me down the road to create something like having their vows written so that they can have that framed, or once they start a family and they want something to commemorate that I try to think of, what are the different milestones in this person's life that can I can contribute to with my art?

Aneta: I love it. I think you did ornaments, right? You were able to do something like ornaments for maybe the first time someone purchased a home and they were new families. You've got me thinking about different things that would work out great.

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Aneta: Just for people in my own life because so many people have anything they want, right? In material goods, it's not necessarily what makes it anymore. It's those thoughtful, those thoughtful gestures that we do. So, that's so exciting, and I love how you've been able to take your passion, and your creativity. Deep into this business. But you do a lot of things. I think your creativity is something that is a part of your everyday life. So, I see your quilting. I see you painting. So, tell us how have you been able to cultivate your creativity? What are some of the other things that you like to do as a creative outlet?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah, so you mentioned quilting, which I laugh at because I tell people I like to quilt and they picture very, like old, like something their grandma made that's like hanging on a wall. But one of my best friend's mom was my neighbor growing up. She quilts and so I grew up watching her and I loved it and I took a class in the summer in high school and during the pandemic when I wasn't having a lot of work and not being able to be on site. I needed something to be creative. So, I thought, I started making masks to donate to the hospitals when they were really in need of those, and then once that kind of urge for those masks went away. I thought, okay, well what's something else I can make? And I just thought, we're at home right now. I just want to be snuggled up. So, quilts, and I got back into quilting. But it's just anything that I can do to make something. I'm not trying to make something to sell with my calligraphy business, that's one thing. But my other hobbies, my crafts, it's just something I can make to have a part of our home. I love seeing my daughter wrapped up in the quilt that I've made for her. Yeah. So, yeah, quilting is one of my favorite hobbies to do. But, I've always been a very creative person and I just have to always be making something and creating something. So, I even like baking. So, that helps me feel like I'm just my true self if I can just spend five minutes a day doodling or calligraphy, or if I'm making cupcakes with my daughter, whatever. It just really fulfills me and I feel like I can be the best version of myself because I'm filling up that cup, and that's important to me.

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Aneta: I love that because with coaching clients often we talk, I talk about creativity because I agree it's such an important part of self-expression, and many people either will say they're not creative, there's some negative self-talk around it or they'll say, I just can't do art or I'm not musically inclined like they're very limited in terms thinking about creative expression. So, was this something that your family, that like growing up, was this something that was, you were encouraged to be creative and how did you manage to continue to do it even though working, running a business, and being a mom, all of the other things that happened.

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah, absolutely, definitely encouraged growing up. My grandmother on my father's side was an artist and developed this passion for art later in life. I truly think that I got that gene from her. But I was always encouraged. We have a lot of musical talent in my family as well, so we're very creative, and artistic, people who like to express ourselves with these different platforms. Then just kind of how I can do it even today with everything that's on my plate is first and foremost, I have an amazing support system and I'm very lucky to have just childcare during the day with daycare. But then also a family that lives close by on both sides of our families that is willing to help out. So it is my daughter's at my parents’ today and it's very helpful. So, I really would not be able to do this without their help. But, something else Aneta that I do is I go to therapy and that has been a game changer for me is to just have time to myself, to talk about what I get very overwhelmed very easily, and so with so much on my plate, it's bound to happen more often than that. And so going to therapy has been a game changer for me to talk about what's on my plate, what am I working on, what am I dealing with. And my therapist will help me come back down to Earth and be like, you can't do it all. She'll say, I know you want to do it all. I know you want to say yes to that project, but something else is going to have to give up. You're going to have to give up something else. And what is that going to be? Yeah. So that's been something I've been working on that has helped me say no to something so that I can have a more seamless routine. With my job, with my calligraphy.

Aneta: Thanks for sharing. I think that it's so important for us to be able to talk about all of the tools and the techniques that work because we don't know, right? What we see, on social media or what we're seeing is just the surface level of what people are presenting. But each of us is a living human being and we need all of these things. So, What are some of the things that have helped you in addition to therapy to just kind of keep you grounded and sort of focus on what the priorities are?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. So I think, one of the things that I've started to do is I just, I, I can't take life one day at a time because it's too busy. But, I can, I can settle with one week at a time. And so I just try to take a look at what's coming up on the calendar for this week, what are my priorities and what, and what can go to next week or the week after. And that has helped me feel more in control of what is on my plate and my schedule. So I just kind of just take a look at it like that I would very much get overwhelmed by, I want to do this next month or this. The holiday season coming up and there's a time and place to forward think and plan for things like that. But right now, in the season of my life, I can't do that. I have just too many things going on. So, if I can just focus on what's going on this week, what's the priority? What are things my family wants to do? What's important for work, things like that. I feel much more in control and then kind of more like long-term stuff as you taught me the power of meditation and manifesting. I have, a board back here, which is kind of the opposite of a vision board where it's, I hang up everything that I've accomplished that I have previously envisioned and manifested. So I have mine. Check from Louis Vuitton up there, and I have some work from Tiffany's and I like to look at that and think this is all possible, everything that I am trying to manifest for my life and my career is possible because I have proof of it and it's right there so, I and we always talk about the vision board that you and I made together and how that's over there too and everything came true. I just really think that there's so much power in saying your goals out loud and telling people and not just thinking it, but writing it down and verbally saying, yeah, next year you're going to see me at Dior is one of the clients I want to work with, and so I put it out there to the universe, but I also do things like going into Dior and that's producing myself.

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Aneta: Yeah, I love that idea of having a board that also reminds you, like I said, that this was important to me. I did the work, I took courageous action. Here's the result. I think that's so beautiful because as you said, you can't just create a board and leave it up there and not take the action, which feels uncomfortable, and sometimes it's imperfect and its tiny actions and the results, are never a linear line. Right? But I have no doubt. You're going to have the Dior checkup very soon.

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Brenna Rudary: Thank you.

Aneta: That is going to be amazing. We talked about, as you said, meditation and being able to take control of our thoughts, but also that helps to create clarity. Because before you could even create the board. You have to know what you want. Is that something that you do regularly with yourself now? Is just continuing as you accomplish these goals and so many things have happened already. Including your family, your business, and all these things. How do you continue to set new goals for yourself? But ones that are still, still fit within the boundaries that you're setting in terms of what you're able to do at any given time.

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. I think just when I think of, or I see something and I think, I want to do that, or that is something I can do. First, take a look at how that makes me feel. Does it make me feel overwhelmed? Do I feel anxious about trying to accomplish that? If it's making me feel that way, I take that as a sign that it's not a good fit for me right now and something that maybe I can pursue later. I'm, I've recently started offering engraving surfaces, and this is a whole new area in my calligraphy business and I'm very excited about it. But I knew that I could not just launch into this and say, I can do engraving and I'm a pro at this and I can be on-site for it. I just thought, okay, this is something that interests me and I want to do it, but I'm not going to allow myself to get to. Far into this where I'm overwhelmed and I've made mistakes that are stressing me out. So, now I just say, yeah, it's something I want to do. I'm going to start practicing and start putting it out on my portfolio and things like that. Now I've been doing this for a few months, so now I am at this stage where I feel a lot more comfortable. I feel excited about it. I feel confident about it. I'm able to put myself out there to make that goal happen. So that, kind of just going with that gut feeling about something and just knowing that I can't say yes to everything and I don't have to do everything at once. Right? Has been helpful.

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Aneta: I love that. You don't have to do everything at once, but you can continue to dream, right? And continue to say, maybe not today, but someday I'd like to do this. How do you practice your courage muscles? Because you talked about getting the courage to go into Tiffany the first time, and then now you've got some other things that you're working on. So, what do you do to continue to build that courage muscle?

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Brenna Rudary: So, this is something that I've been thinking about a lot recently because I am very much a victim of imposter syndrome. Sometimes I will think, why is someone hiring me to do this? Anyone could do this and as I say those things out loud, I know that they're ridiculous. I know I'm very good at what I do. I know I have a craft that I have practiced and skilled in, but I'm still a victim of feeling that way sometimes. I have recently started thinking, especially with engraving. I'm trying to learn about what to do and how these tools work, and so I challenge myself to think, well, what do I think the answer is? Why do I think this surface is not working for me? Why do I think my tool is not working the way I expect it to be before I even type it into Google or find a video on it? And when I'm challenging myself to think that way, I find that I'm always correct. Like I know the answer and that has helped me realize I know more than I'm giving myself credit for, and that helps push away the imposter syndrome and that helps me feel more courageous when I put myself out there because I can go out there thinking I'm good at what I do, and I'm, the value I bring is worth. The price that I charge and things like that, and my time and my energy. But if I need to remind myself that is true by kind of challenging myself to think, okay, what do I think the answer is? What do I think the problem is here? And if I can't find an answer to confirm that. I just go with my gut and I know, okay, this is probably, yes, this is probably the answer. So that has helped me feel a little bit more courageous.

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Aneta: That's huge. Many people always seek external answers. It's so important to remind ourselves like, we've got this built-in intuition. That gut feeling the answers are within. And it's just sometimes removing all the gunk and the clutter and things that sort of keep us confused. Right? So, I love that you validated yourself when you go within. That you know what the answer is.

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. And I also try to think about who says one answer is the end all and be all, think. Because I hold my head a certain way or I'm using a certain ink. Yeah. You might find another calligrapher that'll say, that's not what I would do, but that's okay. Good for them, not for me. Right? This is what works for me and I'm successful at it and it's. This is the path that I'm going to take. I don't need to put myself up on a pedestal saying that everyone else is wrong and my way is right. If it's working for me. That's great. I take, I teach calligraphy classes and that's a question I get a lot. How should I be holding my pen? I always think, I always tell people, Just hold it however it feels comfortable for you and I'm sure you, you'll take a calligraphy class with someone else and they'll say, no, no, no. You have to hold it at an actual, 45-degree angle. And, but I just say, we're here to learn something new. This is, you're not going to become a professional tonight in one hour. You're not going to also retrain your wrist after 30,40, or 50 years of writing to write a different way and do what works for you. You're not trying to become a master penman in this class tonight, so let's just do what's comfortable and go with that and we'll move on from there.

Aneta: I would say that's wonderful advice for yourself when you feel the imposter syndrome starting to creep up because we all do, and that's one thing I share with all my coaching clients. There's no one who doesn't suffer from imposter syndrome. I heard it on a podcast once. I can't remember who said it to give them credit. They said the only people who don't suffer from imposter syndrome are sociopaths.

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Aneta: So, if you don't feel confident that we are good at something. We can feel confident that we've done something before. That doesn’t mean that you don't still have some version of posture syndrome. The courage is saying. I know I feel a little bit scared even though I've done this before and I'm going to do it anyway. It might not be perfect and that's okay. It's one of those things that just maybe sometimes gets a little bit easier with practice, but may never really go away fully. Yeah. I never would've launched a podcast if I felt like I had to. Right. Like anything to be perfect. Because there are so many out there. How do you cultivate creativity as a young mom with Mackenzie, your daughter, who is an influencer? I will say she's hilarious.

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Brenna Rudary: Mackenzie is very fiercely independent and I love that for her. Sometimes it is a struggle for me. But I love that for her and she loves art and making things as much as I do. So that just, man, that makes me so happy. We will just color after dinner. We have a room where there are markers and crayons and paper that's at her level that she can get to, and I just encourage her to make things and we'll hang them up. We just have her art everywhere and she'll say, I made that and I'll, yes you did. She's just so proud of it and just even doodling on a napkin or something is fun and just helps her understand that she can. Put something out into the world that is uniquely her, and she's at that age where she doesn't know. She's not questioning if it's good or not. She's not questioning why someone else's looks different than hers, and she's just Excited to make something and have that crayon in her hand and show me what she's made or asks me to draw something and that fills me up in more ways than one, because I'm ex, I'm glad that I'm exercising this creativity with her, but it's so fun to watch it through her eyes. Yeah.

Aneta: I'm so glad and then you said that you were expecting. Yes. a new one. So when is the new baby due?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. Well, we are having a baby boy and used to be in early March. We're very excited. Mackenzie would thrive as an only child, I'm sure. So right now we are, we're talking about sharing and that we're going to have a new baby and she's not there yet, but we have some time.

Aneta: Yes, of course. So what’s so exciting? So, what would you tell someone who maybe has been thinking about starting a side hustle or dabbling in taking a creative interest and just seeing if they're able to continue to their job and do something different? What advice would you give to folks who maybe have reservations or feel like they have to choose between starting a business and staying in a career?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah. I would say go ahead and buy that domain. Create that Instagram profile. Do what open that Etsy shop, whatever it is. But don't think that you have to make a sale or book a client on day one. Just put yourself out there. The hardest part is getting over it. That vulnerability or not getting over it, but just going into it and knowing it's okay to feel uncomfortable. But if you have that added stress on top of you. Well, I also need to make a sale, otherwise, I'm not good at this. That's not helpful and you're. You're sure to just kind of collapse along the way your business as well. So, I would say, make that profile or that portfolio and just start putting yourself out there. This is something I'm doing. This is the painting I recently made, or this, these are the paints I bought, or this is the quilt I made and just putting it out there without a goal of having a sale tied to it, I think. That's the best advice I would give is just to get comfortable with that uncomfortableness of being new and raw and vulnerable. Then over time, you'll perfect your skills as you practice more, and then you'll feel more confident and ready to start banking, sales, or booking clients.

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Aneta: Such great advice, right? It's taking those small daily actions, pushing through, and being courageous even when you're terrified. But I love the advice of just start taking action, just start to experiment, see if you like it, and without the added pressure of having to make a certain amount of money right away, and for now, you've been doing it for six years, right? What a beautiful evolution. Amazing.

Brenna Rudary: Yes. Yes, it's great! I'm still in the corporate world and I love my job. I love the people I work with and have this other outlet it's taken six years for me to figure out how to balance both of them. But I'm at the point now where I can successfully contribute to both of them, and it's, it just is the best. The best scenario for our family right now. So, that's been great, and be able to kind of fill my cup up on the creative side and then fill it up on the marketing and analytical side.

Aneta: So exciting. Is there anything else, personally or professionally that you're looking forward to, either maybe towards the end of this year, or the next upcoming year?

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Brenna Rudary: Yeah, the holiday season is very busy for calligraphy. So, I'm looking forward to booking some more clients and being in stores. I do love doing the ornaments, I have a few of those jobs already booked up. That's what I'm most excited about and then just kind of starting this new year, knowing that we'll have this new baby soon and what this next chapter looks like for us.

Aneta: So exciting. I just loved watching everything. Your transformation, your evolution. It's so wonderful and it doesn't just happen. It's all the great work that you've put into it. So, I have a question I ask all of my podcast guests, which is based on the title of the podcast, live The Width of Your Life, a quote by Diane Akerman. So, what does it mean to you, Brenna, to live the width of your life and how are you doing that on your own?

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Brenna Rudary: So I think my answer for that is different than what it would've been before I had Mackenzie. But now that she is my main priority, I live my life through her eyes and so now my life is not. Before Mackenzie, my life was very linear, entirely, in terms of my timeline. What am I, when am I going to get married? When am I going to do this? What's the next milestone? Check off this linear timeline. Now I just take it one day at a time and I'm trying to understand how Mackenzie perceives her world and how am I affecting that and impacting that. One thing we do every night as a family is talking about what fun things we do today. It could be something like we had breakfast for dinner and that was fun. But I try to look at it through her eyes and I can just make sure that I am creating and inviting opportunities to have fun. A lot of the time that's very creative and art based for me. Because that's what I know how to do, but, When I look at it through her eyes that way, I'm just a happier person cuz I'm having fun and I'm not tying it to a goal or a project or an achievement or this timeline. I'm better at my job both with. Off the bank and with calligraphy, I'm a better wife, sister, friend, and daughter. Yeah, I think living the width of my life is just knowing that I can see the world through her eyes and I'm looking out for opportunities that I may have been blind to because I was just very much focused on a certain task or an achievement on my timeline.

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Aneta: I love that. I love that so much. I love this idea of seeing it through the child's eyes, right? Because they're so curious and see things in a brand-new way. So what are some of the ways that we can best support you for folks that are listening and they're suddenly very curious about all the services that you provide, where can we follow you and how can we support you?

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Brenna Rudary: Awesome, thank you.! So, you can follow me on Instagram. It's Brenna Claire Calligraphy, and then my website is also BrennaClaireCalligraphy.com. So, mostly on Instagram. Trying to make those reels. Man, those are hard. Those take up a lot of time. But, which is funny, I work in social media, but I'm trying to show up there. But, on my website, you can see more of my work and also get in touch with me through my website.

Aneta: Excellent. We will be sure to include all of that in the show notes. So if you want to get a hold of Brenna and maybe start thinking about the holiday gift shopping, now is a great time to do that, and Dior, if anyone's listening, maybe be on the lookout.

Brenna Rudary: Yes, yes.

Aneta: Thank you so much, Brenna, for joining today. I'm just so thrilled just to see all the amazing, wonderful things that you have manifested in your life through the work and the intention that you have done, and so grateful to call you a friend. So thank you and I look forward to your continued success.

Brenna Rudary: Thank you so much, Aneta.

Aneta: You're welcome and if you guys like today's episode, please subscribe. Also share it with a friend or many friends who found this session inspiring. Join us next week. Thank you.

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