Episode 13 transcript: Why the Journey to Optimal Health is never a straight line with Jaclyn Renee

 Episode 13: Why the Journey to Optimal Health is never a straight line with Jaclyn Renee

Podcast Introduction

[00:00:00] Jaclyn: I think for many people, finding an answer seems like our lives work, you know? And there's not always going to be an answer. There's never been one thing where anyone, even in functionalistic medicine said, this is what's wrong with you, and then they fix it. It's always like the uncovering of something else, especially when you've been sick, probably as a baby and into your childhood. So I've shifted my mindset more into, instead of looking for the answer outside of me, I try to really look for the answer inside of me and trust my intuition as I move from thing to thing, but also have a lot of trust in my body that it is capable of healing and I don't need to have this answer for it to get better. We

[00:00:44] Aneta: We often hear people wishing us a long, happy, and healthy life. But what if the length isn't what matters most? What if instead, it's the breath, depth, and purpose of each day that matters most? Welcome to the Live The Width of Your Life podcast. My name is Aneta Ardelian Kuzma. Join me weekly as I interview guests who make changes in their own lives to live more fully with intention, gratitude, and joy. Be prepared to be inspired by how they shifted their mindset, took courageous action, and designed the life that they always wanted to live. Today's guest is Jaclyn Renee. Jaclyn Renee assists her clients in helping their gut using food and self-care as their medicine, having gone through many of her own illnesses, including IBS and anxiety. Jacqueline entered the world of holistic health. When countless doctors and tests were not working. She helps her clients peel back the layers of their health, starting with the gut, which she believes is the root cause of all diseases. With personalized programs, diagnostic testing, and lots of accountability, she can help her clients get their health back on track and feel comfortable in their own skin. Welcome, Jaclyn.

Podcast Interview

[00:01:57] Aneta: Hi Jaclyn. Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining today.

[00:02:01] Jaclyn: Thank you for having me. Very excited to be here.

[00:02:04] Aneta: Yeah. I am so excited. I have been following your journey on Instagram, I think for probably the last year or year and a half. I think we had a mutual coach in common, Sarah at some point. And so that's how I first started following you. I'm of course obsessed with health and wellness as well, so I'd love to see everything that you're doing. But for those that aren't familiar with you, can you just share a little bit about your story and your background and how you got to be where you are?

[00:02:31] Jaclyn: Well, I'll condense it a little bit because it's a very, very long, arduous story of getting to where I am today. But, like many people who are in the health and wellness industry, I had my own journey of struggles to get here. I was sick as a child, in the '80s. Dating myself, but holistic health, naturopathic doctors, and functional medicine that wasn't really very popular then, or nobody really knew about them. So it was a lot of in and out of the hospital, in and out of doctors trying to figure out what was wrong with me when it morphed into my teenage years. It manifested as anxiety. Obviously, we know, and I'm sure your listeners know a lot about the brain-gut connection. And so the gut issue morphed into a lot of angst and anxiety and anger. And so instead of getting to the bottom of my health issues, I was put into the mental health category or poor mental health category. And then, I went from everything from them diagnosing me as bipolar to just saying it was all in my head. All different types of medications and behavioral management, coaching. I barely graduated high school, barely, like I had to beg a teacher to pass me. I almost didn't walk. And I thought for a long time, I'm just stupid. I'm just not able to do a lot of this stuff. I don't have concentration. And then, I became a hairstylist, was very creative and I was very good at that obviously doesn't require a lot of schooling. And so I jumped right in and my boss at the time said, I noticed you talking a lot about your health issues. You might want to see this naturopathic doctor. Again, had no idea what it was. And I met her and that's kind of when my life changed. I was 20 years old when I saw her, and she taught me about candida. She taught me about gluten sensitivities. She taught me about so many things. And obviously, it's now a 20-year journey here. I'm turning 40 in a couple of weeks. It's interesting how you move through your holistic journey, because originally I thought, well, I'll just go to McDonald's and I'll get no bun. I'll just get the burger. And like, that's healthier and now it's like to go. It just kept unfolding and peeling back the layers of learning. Our environment, learning about, everything from air purifiers to colon cleanses, to supplements, and here I am today. So I went back to school. I graduated with honors and I was like, okay, you can really heal yourself and it's not all in your head. And that's why I wanted to do what I do.

[00:05:09] Aneta: I didn't know that about your story, so that must have been so challenging from the time you were young until 20, just not having answers to why you weren't feeling right.

[00:05:22] Jaclyn: Absolutely. And I think for many people, finding an answer seems like our lives work. And there's not always going to be an answer. Never been one thing where anyone, even in functional, realistic medicine said, this is what's wrong with you. And then they fix it. It's always like the uncovering of something else, especially when you've been. probably as a baby and into your childhood. So I've shifted my mindset more into, instead of looking for the answer outside of me, I try to really look for the answer inside of me and trust my intuition as I move from thing to thing, but also have a lot of trust in my body that it is capable of healing and I don't need to have this answer for it to get better kind of moving through that way.

[00:06:08] Aneta: That's difficult for many people, right? Is one, believing that your body is capable of healing itself, but then two, being able to listen to what your signals are telling you. Looking back on your experience, are you able now to see that your body was sending you specific signals about food that you were eating, or toxins that you may have been exposed to?

[00:06:33] Jaclyn: Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I grew up on the traditional standard American diet, or sad as we call it. I had a food addiction. I was never really overweight, but I had carried a lot of weight in my belly, even for like a kid. And, bloated all the time. Acne, cystic acne, all over my face. So then you go treat the symptom like I went to get acne treated and then they put me on things like prolactin or whatever it's called, antibiotics, steroids for inflammation, all sorts of stuff. And you try to figure out what the one thing is and get it fixed, but it is never really resolved. So yeah, there was a lot that went on.

[00:07:13] Aneta: Wow. So at 20, you went to see this naturopathic doctor? Yeah. And now you said it's almost your birthday. Happy birthday. Yes. 20 years later. So now the next 20 years. Tell us a little bit about how did you start to heal yourself? What was that progress like? And then how did you start to help other people in their own wellness?

[00:07:35] Jaclyn: It was interesting. I'm going to say it's like a three-phase. Okay. The first phase was like, okay, I understand this. I understand that there's an alternative here. I'm receiving it, and I'm accepting it. Because you didn't have to pull me away from Western medicine because it already wasn't working for me. It wasn't like you had to change my mind. Where I do feel like there's a phase where people are learning about holistic medicine. And you have to sort of change their mind on that. There's another way because it's not so popular. So I was already like, okay, I'm into this. I'm understanding it, but I was like one foot in, one foot out, I mean. I was. 21, 22, you're going out, you're partying with your friends. My friends were all in college, so I was visiting up at college, so it was like during the week I lived this super holistic life. And then on the weekend, I was treating my body like a garbage can. Yeah. And so for many years, I healed enough to feel better, but not enough to actually feel good. And so, I dabbled in that for a long time, one side and the other. And then with every year it unfolded and at the age of 30, I decided I couldn't be in my industry anymore. I couldn't do hair anymore because of the chemicals of the very arduous schedule, standing all day. Not eating, running around, fixing everybody's stuff. And so I was married at the time and I asked my partner, I said I would really like to get out of this industry. I don't know where I'm going yet. I don't know what I'm doing, but I need to get better. And the only way I'm going to get better is if I really actually took the time to heal. And so we collectively decided I was going to take some time off work. I ended up taking six months off work. And my personal trainer said to me, why don't you come to assist me in the gym? Just get out of the house. Start moving around. You're starting to feel better. So I ended up getting my certification to be a trainer. And then while I was training people, I was like telling them about holistic nutrition. I was talking about food as medicine and people ended up not really working out when they were with me because I was talking about it. So I thought, well, this is obviously clearly what I need to do. So I stepped into that journey. I went to IIN. I started working underneath functional medicine doctors and learning through different programs that I did, and it just built on itself. So it just happened. Do you know what I mean? It just happened. But I truly believe when you allow life to flow and you're not forcing against it, that what is meant for you will happen.

[00:10:06] Aneta: I completely agree. And how fun that you and I have the IIN connection too. Yeah. It's so interesting to see how many folks have graduated from the institute, which is wonderful. So you started finding, you started sharing your passion, things that you were good at. You put yourself out there, you took a bold step to stop working. Right. How important was it for you at that time to actually stop doing what you were doing before and start taking some steps in this new direction, do you think?

[00:10:36] Jaclyn: I wouldn't be sitting here today if I didn't do it. Honestly, when we have more time, I would go into some of the depths of the hard days that I had, where I couldn't get out of this cycle of how sick I was. It was hard for me to even get out of bed some days. And I even remember that there were some days when I would get to work early just to hype myself up and cry in the car because I'm like, you can go in, you can do it. Like, move your body. Yeah, but my body wasn't listening to my mind anymore. And for anyone listening, if your body isn't listening to your mind anymore, meaning you're trying to tell your body to do stuff and it won't do it anymore, that's the point. That's the stop. That's the hard stop where you have to say, and I would say take a weekend off, take a few days off, and really just connect with your body and say, what am I willing to put my body through anymore? For what, my hefty salary or letting down my clients or whatever it was? I couldn't do it for anyone else anymore. It didn't happen overnight. Right. It progressed, it was a progression of me getting there. So if you're there. You're almost there now. Do it before it gets too bad.

[00:11:48] Aneta: Right. Yeah. So, and then today, so tell us a little bit about how you've taken your story, your own journey, you've gotten healthy. I mean, you look like the picture of health here. Do you find yourself really healthy right now? Do you feel like you are, in a good stage?

[00:12:05] Jaclyn: That's a good question. I would ask you, can you define what healthy feels like to me, or can we define that together?

[00:12:13] Aneta: Yeah. For me it means, I think of optimal health as mental, physical, and emotional, in complete alignment. And, I also think about the ability, as you said, to be able to tap into your own body and to follow the signals. For me, digestive health is a huge part of it. Because I know that when my digestion is off, I don't feel right. When my hormones are not stable, I don't feel well. So sometimes I always start with what doesn't feel good or what doesn't, does that feel like, and then you can sort of say the opposite is health or feeling good? But I would love your definition of what that is for you.

[00:12:50] Jaclyn: I would say you're pretty spot on with that. I always like to know what people say when they say, are you healthy? Because healthy is different, I think than it used to be. Just getting your vitals checked and your blood taken and everything coming back normal doesn't necessarily mean you're healthy. But also, looking healthy also doesn't always mean that you're healthy. Because I know a lot of women who are absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. Totally fit all the stuff that they are struggling inside really badly. So, I agree with you. And I think it is that trifecta or the tripod, the mental health, the physical health, and then the connection to the body or spiritual health. Yeah. However, you want to say it. I do feel, just to answer your question, I do feel the most in alignment with myself, my body, and my health that I've ever felt. However, I did have my implants taken out last year. I don't know if you saw that or not.

[00:13:49] Aneta: I did. I'm glad that you actually brought that up. So do you mind sharing a little bit about your story of how long you had your implants in and then the journey in order to actually make the decision to go through the surgery and the recovery too?

[00:14:06] Jaclyn: Yeah. So around 26 years old, 27 years old, I got the implants. At that point, I was not a healthy vessel. So you add an object to an unhealthy vessel, and clearly, if I was healthy and felt in tune with my body and loved myself, I wouldn't maybe have necessarily made the choice to right. Alter my body. So I made the choice to alter my body and didn't really change much for me physically or mentally, just more aesthetically. And I went through life with them. And, I struggled with this when I was married for six years with infertility. I still had inflammation even though I was on a gluten-free, dairy-free, sugar-free, alcohol-free, and caffeine-free diet. I lived most of my life, paleo. I had a lot of anxiety even when I quit doing hair and I was healing. I was still struggling with health issues and infertility at that time. One of my best friends sent me an article on the connection between infertility and breast implant illness. Had no idea. Did some research, learned more about it, and ultimately knew at some point I was going to take them out. But, for anybody who has taken them out or is about them taking them out. There's this part of you that is afraid to let go, afraid, aesthetically of what you'll look like. And you have to get to that place, that decision on your own. An article isn't going to be what pushes you. So it took me another couple of years to actually reach out, make the appointment, get them done, and I thought, okay, whatever's left of the 15% of health issues that I have is going to magically heal when I take these out of my body. But that was actually true when the real healing began. They're out now. Yeah, they're out now, they left their legacy inside of my body. The two foreign objects inside of my body, near my lymph and my heart, and my lungs for a very long time. And, they did a lot of damage. I don't like to say this, but I partially have to, not to say that I was starting over, but in some sense, I was, because I had to reevaluate what was new for me and what needed to happen. So I sat into working with, I'm a firm believer and I'm not going to heal myself. I'm not going to diagnose myself. I'm not going to be the one to do all this stuff myself because then you do patchwork healing. So I called on a dear friend of mine who is a functional practitioner, and she's helping me through the detoxification of what's going on in my body from 10 years of having implants. And I started working with her and we were about to gear up to do a lot of the detox when my mom passed away. There are no stage, small cell carcinomas like the highest stage cancer. She died really quickly, within six, or seven months of getting the diagnosis. And, so I had to stop my healing, focus on her healing and then focus on my grief, healing, and then I got a little worse because of that trauma in my body. So the reason why I'm telling you all this is that, yes health is physically, mentally, and spiritually healthy, but, there's life. Life happens and bruises happen. You just have to figure out how to never let it break you. You can get bruises, but they can't break you. So now I'm addressing a lot of health that needed to be addressed over the years. And so I am the most in tune with my body. I feel the most healthy, but I'm still working through some health issues that need to be worked through. And I say this, I want to talk about this because people think that there's this ultimate health you will achieve and that you are just then healthy and you'll never look back. But I don't know that life is like that anymore, especially with our environment. And then you throw in a virus. And all these weird things that are accumulating, so I would say I feel 90%, and I like feeling 90%. If that feels good.

[00:18:10] Aneta: Well, thank you for sharing that, and thanks for, actually opening up and sharing so much about your story there and I'm so sorry to hear about your mom.

[00:18:18] Jaclyn: Thank you. I appreciate that.

[00:18:20] Aneta: Challenging things happen. Yeah. What would you say emotionally, it meant for you to release the implants in something, a decision that you made in yours?

[00:18:30] Jaclyn: That was a journey in itself. When I made the decision to do the implant surgery, I was living in Kabul at the time and I have a really dear friend with that I would have amazing conversations with we were having a conversation and I just like burst out into tears. And he was like, what are you feeling? Because we were talking about the surgery and I said, it's just so funny that. Just like a bag filled with goo, but it represents so much more. And I think so many women put so much value on how they look or what they look like in clothes, and it becomes a part of you. It became a part of me, how I looked in everything and so releasing that on an aesthetic and superficial, and physical level, was really hard at first. But it was almost like as soon as they were out and a few weeks went by because the first few weeks you do look pretty botched. You look pretty bad. But then you start to look normal again and you're just like, you never look back. I don't even think about what some people will say, do you remember when you have implants? And I'm like, not really. Like it was only a year ago, but I like, can't even feel that. So there's going to be a little hump, or like a wall, you need to get through where you're releasing what you look like physically and the fact that you've had them for a while, but you ultimately, once you kind of breakthrough that you feel 10 times better. So there's like no looking back.

[00:20:01] Aneta: That's great. Thank you for sharing that. One of the other things you just mentioned, is that you still live in Cabo, but I think that I see that you live in many places. So, what is your approach to life in terms of either travel or where you choose to live?

[00:20:18] Jaclyn: So I say this all the time. Your home is your body it's the only home you will live in for the rest of your life. And I have a lot of detachment from stuff, what I mean? Like, I live a very minimal life. I don't feel the need to have a lot of things. And I make my life very easy, easily movable because I want different experiences. It was one of my major goals in life to become a digital nomad is to become a snowbird by the time I turned 40. And I'm so excited to be able to achieve that. It's just about where I want to be and eventually, I would love to call in a partner and have a home with that partner someday. But I also would love for him to be able to travel with me too and for us to live a travel life so that you can experience a lot. So I kind of just connect with my source and my angels and my ancestors and feel into what's the next place for me? And so Michigan will always be the home base. But the next place for me is in the next two months, I'm leaving for Scottsdale, Arizona. So that's where I'm going to be for the next five months. And, I will create a little home there and connect and feel whatever I need to feel there. And then we'll see what comes after that.

[00:21:37] Aneta: That's amazing. And I'm sure you're not going to miss every day of the Michigan winters. Because I'm in Cleveland.

[00:21:46] Jaclyn: I'll never be in a Midwest winter or East coast winter ever again. That is a statement. And so I said that statement two years ago and I was out, and then when my mom passed, it was her sickness was through the winter, and so I had to be back here and I said, okay, I'll be back here. But only obviously for this one, like I need to be here with my mom but talking with her when she was in her last couple weeks, she was just so excited that I got out. We call it the Midwest you kind of like say, do you get out? Yeah. Being away from winter is like the dream of having a house in Florida or a place in California. And, she was like, don't let it stop you and keep you here in Michigan. And I was like, certainly not. I will be out next winter. So I'm just picking back up and continuing that journey.

[00:22:37] Aneta: So what else is new for you? Hmm. Personally, and professionally, what are you excited about this upcoming year?

[00:22:46] Jaclyn: I'm excited to turn 40. I know a lot of people are not excited. I'm like, this is going to be the best decade of my life, everything I want and dreamed of and knows to be true for me and being comfortable in my skin. I think that's something that comes with age too, that you don't realize is so beautiful. So I'm looking forward to I'm calling in a life partner and a child. I do believe that that's very close for me. So maybe next year if I'm on the podcast, I'll have a little baby at that time. So I'm calling. Yeah, I'm calling him family and life partner. For my business, I'm looking to continue to grow my brand. I'm on the cusp of hiring a PR agent. I want to be like you talk about the Louis House Summit. I want to be a speaker at the Louis House Summit. I want to be on stage like Gabby Burnstein, potentially maybe write a book. So I'm looking to take my brand to the next level and try to reach as many people as I possibly can with this message.

[00:23:45] Aneta: Why not? And speaking, right? I mean, Lewis is a Midwest guy. He's from Columbus, Ohio. So, tell us a little bit about the summit. I wanted to go so badly. I had other commitments this year, so I hope he continues to do it. And I love that he goes back to his hometown and does it. So, tell me it was five days or something, right? It was like a long day or a long couple of days.

[00:24:08] Jaclyn: Yeah. It was a long couple of days. The summit was three days and he will have it every year. The only reason he didn't have it was because of Covid and everything. But he's always going to have it there at the Sheridan, in Ohio at the Ohio Theater. And it's a great venue unless he gets too big because I don't know how many people that hold. It was about half full this time, but we're just coming back. I think he said in the previous years they had sold it out more. And so it's three days. The first day is kind of like registering expo, getting to know everybody, and then they have a couple of smaller workshops, paid workshops that you can go to. His three pillars are business, relationships, and per and health. And so he had one on relationships, he had one on branding. Your mission, your core values. Yeah. Which I think go hand in hand with everything. And then one on health, health as well too. We went to the branding one, my friend and I decided to go to the branding one and it was amazing. This greatness staff. He has a staff. Like staff on hand, his branding, and all that they did, and it was really good and just connecting with other people. And then they had a festival at night, so outside if you are from Columbus that they're by the Ohio Theater. They have that little amphitheater area. Yeah, and the festival was great. There were DJs and food trucks and everybody was just getting to know each other. The first day, so Friday, the first full day, was Michael Beckwith. Dr. Carolyn Leaf. We love her for her brain-gut connection. And Rory Vaden, who is actually the publisher of Louis House's book, and he's a branding, his branding agent. And then they had the Alex Simon Band, which Alex Simon was on Stomp in Stomp on Broadway. He was the mc and they were doing all the drums, hyping everybody up. And yeah, he had his brother playing violin and it was pretty amazing. And then that night there was a, what did we do that night? There was a north market, a festival, or a little get-together at the North market where they have all the ven vendors and just a party and then an after party after where everybody just got to meet each other and dance and have fun. He loves dancing, and then the final day? Yeah, the final day. The full day on Saturday was a really fun day. It was, Gabby Bernstein, Dr. Mario Dubuque, who else was there in Q Who is like a health poet basically. Oh, slam poetry for like living your life to the fullest. He was incredible. Irwin McManus, I loved him. I never heard of him, but I will now be like reading books and following him. I'm sure I'm forgetting somebody, but, at the end of the day then we had a huge party at a bar called Kemba Live, and Wycuff John performed.

[00:26:53] Jaclyn: Yeah. It was crazy. And they jumped, Wycuff John and Louis House were on the theater. At the theater and they did crowd surfing and yeah, dance all night and it was just incredible. But, for people like us or, and anybody who it's not always easy to meet like-minded people in your four-foot radius in your circle. And I don't know if people like when I say this, but I really do believe it's really hard to excel in your hometown. Sometimes you need to get out of your hometown to be around different people. But when you commit to going summit to summits like this, and you're around a thousand like-minded people like you, you just radiate energy when you're back. And so, I'm pumped from being there and I wish I could go to one every quarter. I want to go to one every quarter like that because it just brings so much light into your life and you can bring so much back for yourself and for the community.

[00:27:46] Aneta: Yep. I agree. It is so important to take a break from our routines. Like I love my routines and I'm so disciplined about it, but taking a step out and like you said, being in contact with other like-minded folks and you can learn from them. The energy feels amazing and I do hope that we are able to continue to do more of these. We, I'll stay healthy and we're able to have more of these events in person. So yeah, hopefully, I'll see you at the next one then, Jacky

[00:28:15] Jaclyn: Yeah, definitely. I pre-bought my ticket, so I'll be there.

[00:28:18] Aneta: Any big takeaways for you? Were there any aha moments?

[00:28:21] Jaclyn: Yes. Yeah. Some very big takeaways. Some of the biggest takeaways are just those tiny little moments where you start to understand like, one of the things that happened, Louis House ended up falling in his hotel room, in his bathroom two days before this stuff happened. And he bruised his arm and it was a funny story because he was like so excited. He was running around in his towel and he was like, summon of greatness. I'm so excited. And he slipped and he fell. But he, leading up to that, was basically cursing out the hotel because they hadn't had any upgrades post covid and things weren't working. Many people were complaining and his girlfriend looked at him and was like, you've been complaining a lot about this hotel. You think it was like trying to get back at you. I said it in like a nice way. And it's kind of one of those things where that ended up being the theme of the whole summit is what you put out, the energy you put out, what you're saying, the way you're acting is 100%, 110%, what comes back to you tenfold. So who do you want to be? How do you want to show up? What type of people do you want to attract in your life? And when you see someone who's doing something you want to do to see that as driftwood, like it's literally happening in front of you. So it's, it's possible for you. I manifested a lot of things happening this weekend, and everything came true the exact way I wanted it to, and I thought like, wow, the power of my mind is so beyond what I ever believed. And so that, I think as a whole, that was my biggest takeaway is just to really step into less complaining, more compassion, more empathy, and a higher source of living. Continuing to strengthen my relationship with God to continue to strengthen my relationship with myself. Because you get one shot at this life. Like you really do and that's it. And who wants to live it? Like hating it or just not happy, you know?

[00:30:19] Aneta: Well, that's a great segue into my question on what it means to you to live the width of your life, and how do you do that in your own life?

[00:30:30] Jaclyn: Yeah. This is a tough question to answer. I don't know if anyone else has that, but it's because there are so many things that I really do feel like it means to live the width of your life. But if I had to sum it up, I would say that it's to find joy every day. No matter how small or how big it is, to really have gratitude for everything you have, every person that comes into your life, whether it's good or bad, and to continuously believe, have faith, and trust that you can do and be anything that you set out to be at any point in your life.

[00:31:17] Aneta: That's so beautiful. And it isn't an easy question to answer, but I think that when we do answer it for ourselves, that's the first step to being able to say, am I living that way? And where do I need to make adjustments in order to find that daily joy? The gratitude. What's that?

[00:31:35] Jaclyn: I'm going to play that back over and over once this podcast comes out. Just keep reminding myself.

[00:31:40] Aneta: Record it. It'll be your daily, mantra, affirmation. Yeah. How can this community and my audience, how can we best support me?

[00:31:49] Jaclyn: Yeah. Well, I, how can I best support you guys? That's my whole goal in life is to support you. I find so much strength in community and because I can't really be in one place and have everyone in one place yet, hopefully, one day as Louis does, the best place to find that community. In my private Facebook group, because right now there are over I think over 1200 women who are all on their gut healing journey or health healing journey. And that's a place to like ask questions and find people. And you can search for that. It's called Beat the Bloat with JRW. That's a great way. And then my latest supportive thing that I have for everybody out there so that they can take charge of their health and they can learn about holistic health is a free mini course. It has six modules, learning about holistic health, understanding your body, a whole detox me guide of not detoxing like not eating food or juicing, detoxing your life, like creating sacred space for healing your environment inside your home. The way that you drink water or your toxic overload and it's super helpful so you can get that mini-course, I think you said you're going to share the link. Later.

[00:33:00] Aneta: I will, yeah, I'll include all of these details in the show notes because I do want people to find you. I find everything that you share to be so on Instagram especially if they follow you there, you share so much. I love all your TikTok videos which are great. Thank you for your generosity of spirit. Thank you for sharing, and for giving back everything you've learned in your own journey with others. I know that you're very committed to helping people on their own wellness journey. And so I do hope that people take you up on, the free resources that you have to offer. And it was just wonderful spending time with you today, Jaclyn, and if there's anything else we can do, let me know. And if you are listening or watching and you like today's episode, please subscribe. Like it, and share it so that others hear this message as well. Thank you so much for your time today, Jacqueline.

[00:33:50] Jaclyn: Thank you. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you.

[00:33:53] Aneta: Of course. Thank you for listening to today's episode. I appreciate you being here so much. Make sure you subscribe because every week you'll hear stories from people just like you. I hope you'll be inspired to dream again, break out of your comfort zones, create more joy and mindfulness, and live the life that you always wanted to live. And if you enjoy today's episode, please share it with your friends and family and leave a review. It would mean so much to me. Have an amazing day.

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