[00:00:00] Kara: how amazing is it that there are so many pathways to development and growth? And I don't have to adopt every single thing that I come across because it might not be the right thing for me.

[00:00:16] Aneta: We often hear people wishing us a long, happy, and healthy life, but what if the length isn't what matters most? What if instead, it's the breath depth and purpose of each day that matters most? Welcome to the Live the Width of Your Life podcast. My name is Aneta Ardelian Kuzma and join me weekly as I interview guests who made changes in their own lives to live more fully with intention, gratitude, and joy. Be prepared to be inspired by their stories of how they shifted their mindset, took courageous action, and designed the life that they always wanted to live.

Welcome back to the Live The Width Of Your Life podcast. My guest this week is Kara Goodwin, and she's the host of the Meditation Conversation podcast. She's passionate about helping others who want to expand beyond their body, their thoughts, and their emotions to tap into the wisdom and the gifts within them.

She uses meditation, mindfulness, and breathwork. She also works with the subconscious mind to help others grow into their higher version of themselves. She loves talking about mystical things, and she also loves being more earthy with motherhood animals, plants, and treatment beekeeping.

We had such an interesting conversation, a lot of conversation around the guests that Kara has had and how it's impacted her spiritual journey. We talked about the power of meditation, the evolution of spirituality, and also something called the quantum healing hypnosis technique. I loved our conversation and I think you will as well. Take a listen.

 Kara, welcome to the Live The Width of Your Life podcast.

[00:01:47] Kara: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

[00:01:51] Aneta: I'm so excited to be with you. You and I were talking, and it happens sometimes that we get to be on each other's podcasts on the same day. I'll get to talk to you on your podcast soon as well, which is exciting.

[00:02:04] Kara: I know I can't wait. It's a Kara and Aneta day.

[00:02:08] Aneta: Exactly. And I want to talk a little bit about your podcast with you. So your podcast is the meditation conversation podcast, and I think you've got over 300, you're close to 400 episodes at this point. Tell me a little bit about why you decided to start your podcast and how it's evolved too.

[00:02:28] Kara: Yeah, thank you. I started it back in 2018, so that's six years. I started it with a friend of mine in Sweden and we were just having these conversations on WhatsApp, you can send like voice messages, and one day she was like, we should make a podcast.

I think that's how many, especially co-hosted podcasts, start, we should do a podcast. We should start a band. And so it was like, okay, I didn't know what that meant, but I was like, sure, let's try it. And so she and I did, I think around 50 episodes together, and then the time difference when we started inviting guests on.

And then she was also a lawyer and just our time, it was in a single mom and it just was something had to give. And so she stepped back and that's when I took over and it became just a strictly interview format. And it began the reason it's called the meditation conversation is it was around like fitting meditation into modern living.

We were both parents and came from a very worldly background in terms of our careers and so forth. So it was like, how do you fit meditation in? How do you apply it to modern living when you're not wanting to be a nun or whatever then once I took it and had guests on and was interviewing, it expanded. Usually, there's a meditation element.

Meditation is important to the guest. It's part of their practice, but usually they're healers. They have awakening stories. They're working with people. They're helping people with a spiritual focus, with a mindfulness focus really, some philosophical application.

So that's where things went and it even goes beyond that. The more expanded you get in the spiritual space, like some surprising things might start to come in. Like the role of ETS, or you might not necessarily think why would you talk about ETS on a meditation podcast?

But there are a lot of people who have connections with ETS through channeling, for example. And, they’re here to help us. They help with raising our vibration and adjusting our frequency. And we have apparently, possibly aspects of ourselves that are off-world and so forth.

So it's a very kind of wide, expansive, from episode to episode in terms of what you're going to get. It's not strictly about meditation in the last 300 episodes.

[00:05:10] Aneta: It's so interesting when as you said, you start to dip your toes into the spiritual world and you start to just listen to other people. There's so much out there and I think one of the gifts of podcasting I always find is, I just talked to the most interesting person. I never would have had this conversation otherwise. So what are some of the lessons it may be over the six years or maybe just over the last 300, as you said, things have started to open up in terms of the spiritual realm. What are some of the things that you've learned that you were most surprised about?

[00:05:44] Kara: What a great question. And when I think about that, I'm like, okay, which facet of the prism do I want to look at?

[00:05:50] Aneta: Let's do each one.

[00:05:52] Kara: Yeah. There are just so many different modalities. There are so many ways that people are tapping in and they're so valid. I think when I was newer to spirituality, I was looking for the key that went in the lock that was going to help me understand what was going on. That was going to give me enlightenment or whatever, help me understand, to see beyond what's on the surface. And I felt like there was one truth.

There was one thing, and that's something that I have graduated out of through the podcast and just through my own experiences, where it's wow, there are these methodologies, these practices that are valid for the people that they're valid for, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's the silver bullet for everybody.

It may not be a valid thing for other people and holding that truth has been very important to me for a couple of reasons. One, just understanding these people are developing and opening up and expanding themselves so beautifully and how amazing is it that there are so many pathways to development and growth. And I don't have to adopt every single thing that I come across because it might not be the right thing for me.

When it comes to leaders, organizations, and things like that there can be a lot of fruit there, but I also can see the tendency and I have dipped into that myself even over the years of emulating this is how I dress, or this is how I need to dress. This is the music I need to listen to. This is what the art I'm supposed to like, or whatever it is that is, there can be whole cultures that are around specific teachings that don't feel attractive to me.

But that I have tried to squeeze myself into because I think that's what's It's spiritual, if I'm going to be the expression of my highest self, then this is how I do it because this is how they do it. And that's something as well that I've had to graduate out of where it's waiting, I can be me. I don't like that music. And that's maybe a little sign for me that this isn't completely the right fit and that there are so many other expressions out there of source and of spirit that we can use what we're naturally drawn to help us find the way back to ourselves.

[00:08:43] Aneta: Yeah. It's the discernment within and being able to recognize that. I'm curious, when did your curiosity start with spirituality and was it through meditation initially did it start in the most basic way through meditation? I know a lot of my clients sometimes will say, I just went to a yoga class or we got curious about something. Did you have one entry point?

[00:09:06] Kara: I've been curious about it my whole life. It's been something that like paranormal things I've been interested in. I don't know. I remember there were these Time magazine books that were advertised on TV when I was a kid that were like talking about aliens, talking about mysteries, talking about the pyramids.

And it was like, you can get this collection of books. And I was always like. I wanted to read those, but we weren't we bought things off of the TV or whatever, but I was like, I want to know what is in these books because they were so mysterious and they were very like, some of them were paranormal.

Some of them were just about like mysteries that we don't understand, again, like the pyramids or whatnot. Those kinds of things caught my attention when I was younger. But I got to a point when I was an adult where I pushed it all away where I'll say I became very materialistic and I don't want that to sound like I was all about money.

Because I think that we can think about that as you were greedy or whatever. But what I mean is I just took what was on the surface and that's what is happening. And if I can't explain it, then it's hogwash. And I had that for a while where it was just like, I felt that I had outgrown that curiosity and that mystery.

And then in 2016, my life just fell apart. It started with the death of my sister-in-law she had two young kids and we were close friends. And three weeks later, our dog died. And then a few weeks after that, my stepdad had spinal stenosis and had a delicate surgery on his spinal column.

And then shortly after that, a few weeks after that, my mother-in-law was hit by a motorbike while she crossed the street. So she was in hospital. And then my stepmom went into the ICU with heart failure and she had a heart transplant I think it was about six months after the death of my sister-in-law.

So all of that packed in within about six months, that's just within my husband and my immediate family. We also had a dear friend of ours who was at our wedding, who was diagnosed with a brain tumor and passed away the next year. It was just a really hard year. And my family we were living abroad at the time. We had to stop everything and uproot our lives and, get childcare and in a foreign country and to try to go and be like, as these things were unfolding and things were coming apart at the seams, we'd have to like, figure out how to even be with our family.

It was a tricky, difficult time. And I just felt the surface was so shaky, it felt every time the phone rang, it was like, I don't want to answer that. Why is my mom calling me on a Tuesday? I don't want to know, and so that was really why I went to meditation because I had that spark that was still there from the curiosity, and meditation had been one of those things.

Always piqued my interest but when I got into crisis mode and I was trying to get through that, I was really like, okay, I've always been drawn to this. I've never made the time for it, but I feel that might be a way to help me feel I recognize my life again. And I knew that it had calming properties it could relax me and so I went into it with that, but I think that there was another part of me that knew that it could open up that spiritual side that I closed off. I hadn't intentionally gone in with that, but yeah, that was the impetus for me.

[00:12:51] Aneta: Wow. I am so sorry that you had all those things happen. That must've been completely devastating and overwhelming at the same time.

[00:12:59] Kara: Absolutely. Yeah, it was a horrendous time. I remember being on the bus maybe it was November. And I was like, how is it still 2016? I cannot believe this year has not finished yet. It was just like so much got packed in such a short time, but one of the interesting things that I think I recognize this even going through it, is that it seemed on some level, I was already in the confusion and the muck.

Yes, go ahead. It makes sense that more weird things are happening, more trauma is coming, more life-altering. Things are happening to the people that I love. It was almost like, okay, while I'm already in this state let's just do it all at once. It's if we're just going to demo the kitchen, just do the dining room while we're here. I mean, in a way I guess that kind of helped me feel a little bit better at the time.

[00:14:01] Aneta: Yeah. Dark Night Of The Soul. A lot of stuff happening then. So how did meditation help you during that time?

[00:14:09] Kara: It really, is just that physiological response that you get from the parts of meditation. So the breathwork, because it was more than just, I had tried the, just close your eyes and get still and get quiet. And that didn't take me anywhere. So I needed to find a teacher and get actual methods and step-by-step protocol.

And that included, for example, breathwork, it included a mantra. It included techniques for relaxation. So all of that really affected physiologically my nervous system to really help me to get out of that constant fight or flight and to be able to experience peace and to just let my body relax and open up.

So that was the low-hanging fruit and that was what I was looking for at the time. And then I had chosen through, because I was in Italy and I did speak Italian but not well enough. I didn't want to try, I had taken yoga classes in Italian, for example, and I knew the limits of being able to really fully absorb what was being offered.

I, for as much as I say, like I had blocked off the spiritual side, I was throwing spaghetti on the wall before this, and it was like, okay, God if you're out there, like it was kind of walking back from taking my kids to school and it was like, I remember I used to talk to you and I'm just going to try it.

I think maybe meditation might be the right thing for me. So if you're there, if I am worthy of your attention and you think that meditation is the right thing for me, help me to find the right method for me, a teacher, and let it be in English, and so through that, I did actually, it was kind of in hindsight that I realized how quickly things came together from that, where it was like it was a plea but, I didn't believe, it was like, let's try this. I remember that I used to trust this. So the teachers that I was led to, were monks and they were following like a yogic discipline. And so they were very spiritual, but I was just taking more like the calming, the physiological.

[00:16:34] Aneta: More cycle benefits yeah.

[00:16:36] Kara: Thank you. Yes, that's exactly what I want to say. And the spiritual came later. Like I was very slow. They'd always pray before they started the guided meditations and then we were supposed to meditate on our own, but I wouldn't pray by myself. And, even though that was step one, I was like, I'm good, and It was like, I can still do this breath work without praying, and all of this. So it was like, that was the last part to come in, which is just funny because now it's so important to me.

And that's like the main thing of my meditation. I still do breathwork. I still use a mantra. I still do everything that I was taught, but the whole point now is for me to connect with my higher self, connect with God, and connect with my guides. So yeah, that was the evolution for me.

[00:17:27] Aneta: Yeah. I love hearing people's stories because it's always interesting. It doesn't matter how you come in, I think, because in the end, that's what we're seeking to come back to ourselves, to remember who we are, to connect to our creator, to something beyond ourselves. And as you said, moving from that material as in like matter, or I only believe what I can see into faith is the belief of something you don't see.

And that's where the mysticism, that's where the spiritual is. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that story. Oh, that sounds amazing. And so as you continued on your journey you've talked a couple of times and I just want to go back to this. Your latest episode is a woman and I know depending on when this airs who talks about extraterrestrials?

And contact with beings. And I don't know where I stand with all of this. So I would love your perspective on what you've learned just about beings outside of maybe human beings and what you've learned. Or at least, leave us with something maybe to expand our own beliefs around this.

[00:18:35] Kara: Yeah, I love this question. So it's really interesting there are so many different forms of contact, and I kind of figured for a long time, like if you are going to have contact with an alien like they come in a ship and your body goes and you remember it or I knew that there were experiences of like people having mysterious marks on their bodies and they didn't have the memory of it or the memory comes later or whatever.

But it seems that there is a lot of contact happening through consciousness where the physical body remains. So perhaps and, I would not necessarily call myself a contactee, although I had Alan Steinfeld on the podcast. I'm not sure if you've heard of him, but he has a huge YouTube.

He's been around forever and he's big in the disclosure community I was sharing with him some of the things where I've opened my eyes half expecting to be like on a ship because of the things that I'm feeling within myself, the vibe, like I'm feeling actual vibrations within my body, like physical vibrations, as though there's like there have been times where it feels like something's rolling over me and just vibrating, but I can't feel it against my skin, but I can feel it inside and it's moving like down my body and vibrating like shocker points or just parts of my body, like the width of my body.

And I can feel my bed vibrating in those spots too. And it's so bizarre. And so I opened my eyes like half expecting that I'm somewhere foreign to myself, and I opened my eyes and I'm in my room and I'm like, okay, but I feel this within me. Like, how is this happening?

And so Alan was like Kara, I'm not saying that you're a contactee. But you certainly sound like one he's interviewed so many different people and stuff. So that was really funny for me. But it seems that for some people the contact experience is you're physically still here, but you can feel things happening within, or you're getting information and you don't know how you know it.

So it can be some of that Claire's that come in, we might think of it as spirit is talking to me, but it could be like high vibrational. Beings who are off the planet who we have a connection with, who we can connect with telepathically, it was really funny actually, right before you and I met I was interviewing somebody who is an evidential medium.

And she's like very much connected with Jesus and her ancestors, her deceased loved ones. She's very much about helping to bridge people with their departed loved ones. And she's talking about her mother who was a very devout Christian, who had a hard time with certain aspects of this guest's career path with the mediumship.

And her mom passed away and then she's been guiding her since. And she has this amazing story. This woman's name is Julie Conrad for interested people. Then she talks about how her mom, was in Sedona for a book release of her book and her mom told her to go to Bell Rock as a medium, she's telling her to go to Bell Rock.

And I'm like Bell Rock is like a galactic hub. That's where people go to connect with galactic beings with aliens and starships and things like it's known for that. I just said I think your mom's full of surprises, because there may be some sort of like ET connection there with her, and I'm projecting of course, but the only way that I know Bellrock and I've been there several times, but the only way that I know that is as a galactic, like it's a hotspot.

And it draws people who are interested in galactic things. We didn't dive deep into that, but it's just really funny. I think that a lot of times, we may not even realize that there are these off-world connections because we associate them with spirit. After all, they are part of our spirit team.

Like they're part of our divine team, but they happen to be incarnating on another planet. They may not even have physical bodies. They may be so high vibrational that they just have a light body. And this kind of goes into why haven't we discovered alien life with the technology that we have, and there are a lot of things around that in terms of, is our technology, like how high tech is it?

Even the highest tech things that we have, if we think of the vastness of the universe, it's possible that our technology is actually pretty primitive. But also we're looking for physical life. And from what I understand some of these beings and their locations, where they live, it's so high vibrational that we couldn't see it with physical instrumentation.

Or at least what we have right now. And we couldn't see them with like our physical eyes. I don't know if that.

[00:23:48] Aneta: Yeah. No, that's interesting. And I was going to say the same thing as you were talking is just that when we're the observer and we're looking with the physical eyes and expecting something to be a certain way, you're not going to see it if it's not. So do you know, or have you learned anything about, are they all higher vibrational or are there some that are lower vibrational?

[00:24:11] Kara: This is a great question too. And this kind of alludes, I don't know how much of the episode that you mentioned

[00:24:16] Aneta: I didn't get to listen to all of it, but tell me, I want to go back and listen to it all.

[00:24:20] Kara: Yeah, because this woman, and now I can't remember what her name is, bless her. Nancy Thames. Nancy Thames. And I think it was episode 369. Has been a lifelong contactee and when she was little, she loved this contact. I thought it was very friendly, had great feelings about it. But as she got older, she got scared by it and the fear came in.

And it's been this evolution in her life where she's coming back around where she's actually, this has all been for my benefit, even though I've been afraid. And interestingly, her contact has been a lot like mine where she doesn't necessarily remember going on a ship, but she's felt things happening and may experience things and dreams and stuff like that.

But anyway, she's reached a point where she's like, any contact don't be afraid of anything, which I agree. Like we want to keep our fear in check, but what I was getting from her, at least my interpretation of what she was sharing was just trust anything because it's all for your highest good.

Even if it doesn't feel right at the time, it's all for your highest good. It's part of your soul plan. The reason that it's happening is because you agreed to it in the beginning. And I don't have enough information about all of our soul plans to know that could be accurate. But I was pressing back in that conversation about how I think there's a place for discernment and there's a place for empowerment to say I'm not ready for this, or this doesn't feel right.

And because I don't believe that every single off-world being is benevolent and here for our good. And I do think that there are perhaps, there's a potential that there could be beings who are looking for wide open people. And that could be through drugs, through alcohol, not necessarily that they're choosing to say hey, I want anything to come in here, but just that their auras are open and they can manipulate their way in and they don't have the highest good for everybody in mind, they have selfish reasons and they want to control people And influence people for their benefit, that's my perspective.

 I would not necessarily say if you have an ET experience and it doesn't feel right, and you feel like, whoa, this is wrong and I don't agree with what's happening that you should just go with it, anyway. It's all our perspective and interpretation.

[00:26:50] Aneta: I'm with you. That's why I asked the question because I'm like, I don't think that everything is benevolent. And I think we do need to use discernment and you're right. When we are more susceptible, our vibration is low for doing things that keep us open and open us up to those things. We could be more susceptible which is not always a good thing.

I don't think I've ever been in contact with anything, at least. Usually, I think that anything that kind of comes through as a download comes from God. And so if someone's listening and they're like, that's interesting, like, how would you know, or should they just listen to these episodes? I think you have probably a lot of guests who may go into detail about what this could look like or feel like.

[00:27:30] Kara: It's so interesting, some people do have memories that they get through like hypnosis. So there's a specific modality called QHHT. Have you heard of quantum hypnosis healing therapy or technique? There are a lot of QHHT practitioners. This is Dolores Cannon. If you've ever heard of Dolores Cannon, that was her, she developed QHHT.

So that's a whole rabbit hole, you can go down. That is fascinating. Dolores Cannon's work. She's got a gazillion books out there and a lot of information. And this came out, I think she started doing her hypnosis in like the 50s or 60s, and these stories started slowly dripping out.

And she was like this devout Christian woman from Arkansas who was like I have no idea what they're talking about. So that I think for me adds a lot of credibility, but it just, the stories like get wilder and wilder over time. And she has no context. She was such a pioneer, but finding a QHHT practitioner is pretty easy.

There are a lot of people who are doing that now. So if there's any part of this conversation that's resonating with you where you're like maybe, I don't know. Maybe there are some gaps in my memory or maybe there are some dreams that keep coming up that may be pointing, cause we've got this potential for dream screens where something else is happening with our consciousness, but our human mind puts a dream over it almost, there's something really happening.

So for me, I have a lot of traveling dreams. I have a lot of cruise ship dreams. I have these specific elements where I'm like, okay, my consciousness may have been doing something else when those sorts of themes come up. Again could be a projection, I'm not saying for sure every time I dream of a cruise ship ever, but I have those dreams fairly regularly and there are common elements in them, which just make me wonder but QHHT practitioners can be really helpful to help you get into your consciousness and unpack some of that.

But typically people who are attracted to the topic just naturally, it's one of those interesting things like, if you're drawn to the topic of ETs and how that fits in with spirituality, that tends to be an indication that you do have contact.

And if you just start noticing and asking, like before you go to sleep, or if you are a meditator, asking before meditation to get some clarity, or if you want to have contact with high frequency, benevolent beings who are there for your good and your highest good and your highest evolution putting that out, putting that intention out in your meditations or before you go to sleep of having a loving and benevolent experience and see where those things take you as well.

[00:30:29] Aneta: Yeah, I do not claim to understand a lot of this but you know as you say like high-frequency benevolent beings people sometimes call in angels, right? And so it is interesting. How has your spirituality changed in this journey of yours because you've been on it for a while?

[00:30:50] Kara: It has changed a lot. I alluded to before, where it was that lock and key where I was there's one right thing and it's the one right thing for everybody. And so it's the one right thing for me and there've been a couple of times where I've followed a guru or something, maybe they weren't calling themselves gurus, but that worked for me for a while and then I needed to recognize when it was time okay, this isn't the right path for me anymore.

So more of that empowerment, like less looking outside of myself for the answers that I sought, and more like trusting what I was getting, but balancing that with, okay, there are people who have developed skills and techniques that are valuable and okay, if I'm interested in something and taking something further remote viewing, for example, I have not taken a remote viewing class.

I've taken a free workshop, but I dived in for a few hours where I was like, this is a whole thing that I didn't even know about. And look at this person's mastered it and they've got all these cool stories and there's a whole like protocol for it. And then it fizzled out for me when I tried to practice it, it was like, It didn't appeal to me, but I can appreciate that there are people who've honed their skills to such an extent that if I want to explore this aspect of what we can do with our consciousness, there are people who can teach me. So it's not like I've got to forge this path by myself every step of the way for any gift that I want to, explore.

But also trying not to put people on pedestals and be like, everything that they're going to tell me is the right thing for me. And look at how they're dressing and look at what they're selling next and all of this stuff. And got to be a part of all of it.

That's been another part of the evolution just keep coming back to myself. And there's just, the universe is so vast and the unfolding and the kind of coming back to self there's so much simplicity in it and it can just keep getting more intricate, it's both. It is the simplicity, but it's also like the labyrinth and the moving through what's coming at you in life and knowing that sometimes you're a little bit further away from your core and coming but that doesn't mean that you're off path. It just feels a little bit like I've had that. I was on vacation last week and it just coming back in there, all the ways that you get settled back into reality. And I felt like I wasn't as close to the source, to my core, to my higher self.

 And I was sick also at the beginning of the week, but it was just for all these reasons. I just felt a little bit like. Not connected as much as I love to be. And then I felt that come back in this morning in my meditation. And it just was like, and it did appear to me like a labyrinth okay, remember you've got to keep coming closer and like following this path, in choosing to do that. So yeah, it's just an expansive journey, but it keeps coming back in.

[00:34:01] Aneta: Yes. I love it when you say that. When I feel disconnected, I don't like it. Because I'm such an earth sign and so I need to ground and sometimes with travel, I love traveling, but I also need then to ground, to integrate, to come back to my devotion, to my practices every day. To make my connection to God and stuff. And then I feel like, okay, now I'm back where I need to be. How do you balance all the spiritual with then also being a mom and, just like being on this earth as well?

[00:34:33] Kara: Yeah, that's such a great question. And because my family is not into any of this, it can feel like two different aspects of myself. And really, we all have different facets of ourselves. I have somebody who knows me pretty well but we've met through spiritual. She's been a guest on my podcast and we always are talking about spiritual things and she's I've just realized like, you're funny. And that has happened a couple of times where that part of me, just under those circumstances, just takes longer to show itself.

But it is this multifaceted way that we express ourselves, right? It's harder for me to show my funny side because there is a sacredness with spirituality. And so it doesn't always lend itself to that. But then I have people who've known me since I was like, in my twenties and then they're like, Oh, you can be serious.

Yeah. So it's similar to my family where they know my feelings and my beliefs and so forth, but I don't ram it down their throats. It's not this is the truth. So this is what you have to believe. And now we have to pray and we've got to do, it's like kind of just, it's here and I'm modeling it, but I want them to have that space to be who they are and if it's right for them at some point, then it's all around them. It's not hard for them to slip into it when they're ready.

So It's very much like what you said, where you go away and you need to get integrated, get grounded back in. And I feel like I'm back and forth with that a lot. I live in Indiana, so I'm not in a very spiritually-minded community. So even when I'm just interacting with everyday friends, there's a lot of mental gymnastics about, okay, how do I approach this conversation? Where are they? We're going to talk about something hot in the media, and it's okay, which side of the prism am I going to have this from I am not a forceful person in terms, and I know that a lot of the things that I believe and that I practice are not mainstream. So, trying to meet people where they are is my big approach.

[00:36:50] Aneta: And it's so important to just be authentically ourselves because as you said, there are so many aspects of us because I'm part of a mastermind of spiritual entrepreneurs and people practice and they facilitate so many different spiritual modalities and everyone is somewhere on the prism of their own experience and understanding.

I self-identify as a Christian. That was my background as a child and I love my faith, always been curious about comparative religion and just really curious about people's experience and their connection back to God whatever that definition is for them.

And I think because I'm who I am. Then people can share their experiences too, in a very open, nonjudgmental way. And we learn from each other. And I think that's what we're supposed to be doing. It's like when we listen and we say that's interesting. I don't know. I think that's one of the most disarming things we could say to someone else is, I don't know.

I don't know anything about it. UFOs or ETS or aliens. I don't know if people are in contact. But if we said that, I don't believe in that, you just stop the conversation and you don't learn something different. And then, as you said, we have the gift of discernment. That's where you can identify, Oh, okay. I don't judge you. I appreciate this and this is your experience. It's not mine and that's okay. It just opens the door for so much more.

[00:38:16] Kara: Beautifully said. Absolutely.

[00:38:18] Aneta: Yeah. So awesome. Kara, how can people support you if they want to work with you? Tell us some of the things that you're up to right now and the best way that people can find you.

[00:38:28] Kara: Oh, Thank you. I have a miracle summit coming up on November 14th at 6 pm Eastern, it's the first time I'm hosting a summit, but I have a group of beautiful guests, and we're going to be talking about miracles and experiences that people have had that would fall under the miraculous, unexplainable, and also tips for how to align yourself with that kind of miracle flow, miracle frequency.

So that will be on November 14th. I'm excited about that. And I've got the podcast, the meditationconversation.com will get you to all of those episodes. I have learned to meditate in 21 21-day online self-paced courses. If people are interested in learning meditation I have a group that I meditate with called the Healing Heart and we get together and do online meditations and we have a book club and we have a discussion forum and all of that kind of community, it's a really beautiful group of souls.

So those are the main ways I feel like I'm thinking I'm forgetting something, but those are great ways in.

[00:39:44] Aneta: I love that. Thank you so much. We'll include all of that in the show notes. And Kara, I ask everyone a final question, which is what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?

[00:39:55] Kara: I think it comes to following passion, right? Following the interest. So as I shared with you in the beginning it was like my lead into meditation, where it was like that spark of, okay, I remember that this was something that I was interested in and I closed it off. At a certain point where I thought that I had outgrown it, but it was opening that back up to say, okay, this is something I'm innately attracted to.

So let me see where this takes me. And that's been more and more just how I fill my days when I have the luxury of I can do what I want to do when I want to do it when that shows up, and even having the podcast and being able to say okay, I started it to talk about meditation and it's just kept evolving with this kind of the common theme of people can relate to meditation is an inroad to a lot of these things that come up, healing modalities and so forth.

But it's expanding out to say what is Aneta doing? I want to know about that. That sounds so joyful and it sounds so purposeful and I want to learn about that. So let's have her on the podcast so that we can learn about this and follow that spark of this sounds so interesting and uplifting and we're creating our life all the time, right?

So it's like, what do we want our life to be and the way that we figure that out and we let it happen is by saying this makes me feel good. This genuinely makes me feel good. So let me follow that and see where it takes me.

[00:41:39] Aneta: I love that. Kara, thank you so much. I enjoyed our conversation today.

[00:41:44] Kara: Thank you. It's been such a joy to be with you.

[00:41:47] Aneta: Yes. And everyone take a look at the wonderful programs that Kara has, especially the summit that's coming up in a couple of weeks. Have an amazing day.

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