Episode 163 transcript: How Animals Heal Us: BodyTalk, Energy Medicine & Finding Your Authentic Self with Sofia Risberg
[00:00:00] Sofia: So we have four diaphragms. The first is when we put our eyes in peripheral. The second is when we swallow. The third is our actual diaphragm. And the fourth is when we squeeze to hold in pee. When we engage all of four of those, then our body somehow knows that we're safe.
[00:00:23] Aneta: We often hear people wishing us a long, happy and healthy life, but what if the length isn't what matters most? What if instead, it's the breath depth and purpose of each day that matters most? Welcome to the Live the Width of Your Life podcast. My name is Aneta Ardelian Kuzma and join me weekly as I interview guests who made changes in their own lives to live more fully with intention, gratitude, and joy. Be prepared to be inspired by their stories of how they shifted their mindset, took courageous action, and designed the life that they always wanted to live.
Welcome back to Live the Width of Your Life Podcast. My guest this week is Sofia Risberg PhD and she's a former historian who started Learning Body Talk in 2020 and after taking courses, she has been intuitively guided to use that modality as a basis to work primarily with animals to help them find assistance with anxiety, trauma, ancestral patterns and other issues that affect them.
And she's been on this deep spiritual journey since 2009 when her father died to uncover the programs and beliefs that she took on that kept her from knowing and embodying her divinity, which she says we all carry within us. And when she's not helping animals, she dives deep into nutrition, explores frequency devices, supplements, and other ways to support her body, to allow her connection to consciousness to flow more fluidly through her.
We had such an interesting conversation. I learned so much about body talk about her work with animals, about the differences of working with humans versus with animals. And just really love the light that she shares in the world and the great work she's doing. I think you'll enjoy the conversation. Take a listen.
Sofia, it's so good to see you.
[00:02:05] Sofia: I know, honey, I'm so grateful that you asked to have me on the show because I'm so excited about our conversation.
[00:02:11] Aneta: Me too. And we were just talking before we hit record, just that I was on your podcast and I was so excited because we had such a very rich conversation. And I'm so excited that you're here so we could talk about you and the amazing work that you're doing in the world. So thank you.
[00:02:28] Sofia: Thank you very much. I'm so grateful.
[00:02:31] Aneta: Yeah. I want to dive in and talk a little bit about your background, because as I said in the intro, you're a former historian, but then you changed lanes, and I don't even, what to call it. You started Learning Body Talk in 2020. So share maybe a little bit about your history, because I definitely want to make sure that we start to talk a lot about the amazing work that you're doing today.
[00:02:56] Sofia: Sure. I came in and knew that there was no such thing as separation. And yet everything around me told me there was. And so when I was 10, I was super spiritually connected. I asked her, traveled, I talked to Spirit all the time. And I was 10, my grandpa died and he sat on my bed for three days to let me know he was okay.
And that tripped me out and I shut it down. Before I shut myself down, I heard three things that one of my partners was going to be older than me, check. My dad was going to live a pretty healthy life and then have a tragic death check. And I was going to be a doctor at the time. I didn't want to cut anyone open.
I've always had a really deep connection with animals like crazy, like they're my friends. They're not just animals they're literally my friends. And I didn't want to cut anyone open, and quantum physics wasn't at the place that it is now. So I looked at myself at the age of 10. I was like, what do I like long enough to get a PhD in?
And I liked history because I like studying people. And how we live in different time periods. That's pretty much the whole thing. I don't like the wars and the battles and everything. I want to know the day-to-day, like what did you cook with? That kind of stuff. How do we exist? So fast forward to 2006.
I get my PhD in cultural history and understand how separation is created. So I take it as far as I can, intellectually still don't have the answer. Because there is no separation. And then in 2009, my dad had the tragic death of getting a staph infection and being paralyzed for three months. And when he died we had left the hospital.
He was in hospice, we left the hospital. I hear the phone call from the hospital saying Dad died and I turned the car around. I'm like, that was a hospital. Dad just died. And mom said, no it wasn't. And I pick up my phone because I'm driving, I just heard the ring and I play the message and Dad had died so she was tripped out.
We drive back to the hospital like 20 minutes for parking and getting down to the room and I look at his body and that's not dad. It's a wax figure that had lost like 200 pounds and was this bony wax thing that didn't look like my dad. So I say, where's dad like three times? Because mom's that's your father.
I'm like no, it is not my father. That is like a shell of something. I don't know what it is, but it's not my dad. And then I felt, and I was like, that was dad. And him doing that, just opened me up where I hadn't been able to be open before. And I started doing meditations with Chen from Mindvalley. Then I did the Silva Method, and then I started just going really like digging who am I? And I started receiving Body Talk sessions around 20 13, 20 14.
It just uncovered subconscious beliefs, epigenetics, past lives. It's a very complex, multifaceted discipline of healing. And in 2020, the lovely shift in our consciousness happened and I was guided to start taking body talk classes. And body Talk is a combination of chiropractic, kinesiology, reiki Chinese traditional medicine, a little aerobatic and a little aboriginal, and is all placed into this one chart that is in here now. And then you tap into consciousness and then magic happens. So the second class I took was called Body Talk Access, and it's a tapping mechanism for bringing harmony into your body.
And it was for animals. And I am in Oregon, the instructor's in Ireland. The dog that she asks me to work on is also in Ireland, but the guy couldn't call into Zoom, so there's 10 people in the class. So you know how small the Zoom thing gets. She's like holding up the phone on her camera, and I'm like squinting, that's what I'm working with.
So I start tapping, and it was a puppy and she went bounce to sound asleep before I was done. And I was like, what is this? And so I took three more classes and that really expanded me. And then the body talk system is okay, now you get to start practicing because they want you to just start integrating it. And I started working with animals and I was really amazed.
At how they respond because they don't have the lack of faith that we tend to have in healing because if you've ever done energy healing, it's yeah, this'll work, but there's that skepticism. They don't have skepticism. It's all the mind and they just like, oh cool, I'm going to get this. Now what's really interesting is the dog I'm living with now, because I'm house sitting around Oregon, which is a fascinating experience in understanding what home is. She hasn't given me permission yet.
[00:08:11] Aneta: Interesting. Why is she just like feeling you out or what is it?
[00:08:16] Sofia: She wants a relationship with me before I do anything with her because she's had trauma. Because I started doing it the other day, I am like, okay, your amygdala, your kidneys and your adrenals are out of alignment. You're in sympathetic mode. You're not in parasympathetic, so let's just do, and she says, no. I'm like, what do you mean no? She said, I don't know you yet.
[00:08:34] Aneta: Oh, wow.
[00:08:34] Sofia: I'm like, wow, this is so cool. So she and I have been developing a relationship. We're learning each other. She's showing me areas of trauma that I used to have so I can be more compassionate with her.
Which is also fascinating. That whole like, relax,, jolt relax, jolt. I've done that many years and now I'm not in a space where I jolt anymore. I'm like, oh, I get to be present with myself. Thank you body for showing me this. She's doing what I did until like about five years ago.
[00:09:06] Aneta: Wow. And do you mean when you're deeply relaxed where then like your body does that? That happens to me. What is that? Why do we do that?
[00:09:13] Sofia: That's like trauma. That's like you not feeling safe.
[00:09:18] Aneta: Oh, interesting.
[00:09:19] Sofia: I'll share this with you and everybody who's watching. So if you hold each finger you feel your heartbeat in that finger then switch and do it with all 10 fingers, you're hitting five meridians.
[00:09:39] Aneta: Wow.
[00:09:40] Sofia: And you can bring your body into parasympathetic. And so if I wake up in the middle of the night and I'm like, oh, I'm feeling super anxious, I'll do that. Sometimes I'll like literally touch each toe and feel it and move it around to calm my body down because there's also meridians there. And it's just a way to calm your body again. And also being present, when you feel that jolt. It's in your body somewhere.
[00:10:07] Aneta: Yeah.
[00:10:07] Sofia: So just be present to you. We're going into all my modalities
[00:10:12] Aneta: I love it.
[00:10:13] Sofia: so we have four diaphragms. The first is when we put our eyes in peripheral. The second is when we swallow. The third is our actual diaphragm. And the fourth is when we squeeze to hold in pee. When we engage all of four of those, then our body somehow knows that we're safe, and then we can feel our feet, feel what's on our feet, feel what's under our feet. Then bring yourself up to your buttocks. What are you sitting on? How does it feel? Are you comfortable? Are you not? Is it a hard seat? Is it a soft seat? And really just engage your diaphragm when you're breathing and really be in that present state. And all of a sudden your body's she's listening or he's listening.
It's this safety that we haven't been taught. And because we're living in this time where consciousness is expanding and we're becoming more light and less carbon based, we're going to get triggered a lot.
[00:11:28] Aneta: That's so interesting, because even babies do that, right? I remember sometimes my kids like they'd fall asleep and then their arms would come out all of a sudden and almost like they startled themselves for something. So does it happen even at a very young age? You see that.
[00:11:43] Sofia: Yeah, we have amnesia. Amnesia. We don't remember who we are. Like that's part of the contract of coming into the 3D is that we forget our divinity.
[00:11:52] Aneta: Yeah.
[00:11:53] Sofia: And that adjustment of what did I just do to myself?
[00:11:58] Aneta: Yeah.
[00:11:58] Sofia: Wait a minute. I'm like a multidimensional being and I'm in this. So it's jolting. It's disturbing because we also have a reptilian brain that our souls don't have, and the reptilian brain is the fight or flight. And that's I don't know this, but I'm feeling it, it like gets activated when we get here. And so it's in our DNA, it's in our epigenetics. It's just this old energy that we're transmuting and we're in the process of transmuting. We haven't transmuted it yet.
[00:12:30] Aneta: Yeah, so interesting. So when you talk about separation, and you said that at 10 you just, was it at 10?
[00:12:38] Sofia: Oh, I came in knowing there wasn't any.
[00:12:40] Aneta: You came in knowing. So tell me a little bit more about that. because I'm curious about what you found, because I'm imagining that if you studied, you probably went all the way back to Genesis and Adam and Eve and the separation beginning there. Because I think sometimes people think it happened then, but, or the belief there was a separation.
[00:13:00] Sofia: It was like this innate awareness and then watching everyone around me. I didn't go into the Bible. It was like this awareness . Like, I've healed it, but I'm going to bring it up because it's relevant. So, My right hip wasn't fully formed when I was born, so I was in traction at six weeks till six months, and then in a body cast for a year and a half.
I I didn't walk until I was around two. And then I actually ran because it's plus or break getting out of here. But when I was walking, my mom and I were walking down the street together and I tripped and I fell on an ant hill. I cried because I knew I just destroyed the homes. I knew it. I knew that I had just displaced these beautiful beings that we take for granted, and we don't even think of our sentient beings, but they are in their own level.
I don't know what their consciousness is of an ant. I don't know, but I do know we have it because we're all conscious and that was an indelible instinct of like me having that compassion for a quote, unquote lesser being, because I knew I hurt them and I didn't mean to, and I just felt horrible. And the other incident, I remember when I was little, no, I'm not playing with you right now, thank you.
Just looking at me like I want you to play with me now. The other instance is I was three and we had a cabin on a lake and. There was a gaggle of Canadian geese and I immediately recognized them. I was like, they're my friends, they're my family. So I walk in between them and they surround me from my parents because they're like, she's one of us and I'm talking to, and I'm petting their heads and my parents are freaking out because Canadian geese can be mean.
[00:14:46] Aneta: Right.
[00:14:47] Sofia: they cannot bit me but they can be mean. And so I'm there like 10 minutes or so and my parents are like trying their best to get me out and I'm just like having this beautiful time. The geese they're like cooing at me practically. because they know who I am. I don't. I'm just being present with them. So I finally get out and my parents are like, don't you ever do that again. I'm like, but they're my friends.
[00:15:08] Aneta: Oh.
[00:15:08] Sofia: I don't see it, and I've had trees talk to me. I've had boulders talk to me, I've had water talk to me because all of, they know that, I know that they're not different from me. They're just in a different form.
[00:15:21] Aneta: So obviously your parents maybe didn't quite understand this, and in society, I'm sure.
[00:15:27] Sofia: I grew up in Connecticut.
[00:15:29] Aneta: Yeah, exactly. So I guess the question is, did you ever try to hide these gifts?
[00:15:36] Sofia: Oh Yeah. So, I had the opportunity to learn that my maternal grandfather had a nervous breakdown during World War ii, and he was institutionalized and was given a lobotomy.
And my paternal grandmother, took care of six people that died on her and had an nervous breakdown and she got institutionalized.
So there's a history of mental instability in my family, which means that they're just lightworkers and they don't know it. I come from a long line of very creative beings that had to repress it. So I'm like seeing my grandpa sit on my bed and I'm like, this is crazy town. I'm growing up in the seventies in Fairfield County, Connecticut, and we don't talk about stuff like this. We just don't. It doesn't happen. And so I remember going to my minister, I'm like, okay, so how do you pray? He's like, what? I'm like, how do you pray? What we know now with Greg Braden, where you actually feel the feelings and embody it.
That's the prayer. It's not dear God, please help me because we are Gods, but I didn't know that then. So I was like, okay, I can be institutionalized or I can shut myself down. Those were the pieces of awareness that I had at the time. I really tried to fit in. I really tried. I can't and like my intuition was always there.
I always predicted things. I saw things happening in the future. I didn't ask for travel as much, but I remember when I did, I used to tie my soul to my body. So then I astral travel and I could come back.
[00:17:04] Aneta: Tell me more. Tell me more about this. I've not experienced this myself.
[00:17:08] Sofia: This is so cool. So this was when I was little. I go on these adventures at night in my dreams, but I knew I was going somewhere and so I'd always have this like little rope or something that I tied to my ankle or something, and then I could feel my soul drifting off to wherever she wanted to go and my body would still be here. Then I'd always wake up back in my body, but I don't remember when I came back. I just remember the actual tying and going off on these adventures and coming back into my body. And so the 3D really didn't make sense. I was out in nature all the time and connecting with the plants and the trees and the animals, and that made sense to me.
But like connecting with humans, not as much and I've never been able to. And that's one another reason why I focus on animals is because I am so sensitive that it's like animals have a clean energy.
and even though I get emotionally attached to them when I spend time with them I don't remember the sessions when I'm done.
[00:18:14] Aneta: Going back to the body talk, you noticed that you were able to connect to the animals and you were curious about it, and then you had this history of wait a second, I've always felt like there was no separation. We were part of with the geese and the ants. So how did you go deeper in to identifying that, I think I should be working with animals.
[00:18:35] Sofia: It just started showing up. I work with animals and people started showing up and giving, tests, not testing me, but like, my animal has this thing and the vet can't do anything about it. So I'm like the OB one. But I'm not really a fan of but, also like, yeah, there's stuff that I can do that conventional medicine can't do because it's so expansive.
It's got so many different modalities. I recently enrolled at Quantum University to become a doctor of holistic health so I can expand my awareness
And I've taken and a half classes so far. One's on the five bodies. So we have a physical, a vital, a mental, a super mental and a bliss body.
So that's cool. And the biofield and quantum entanglement. And so I'm already getting that. But then I got stuck on anatomy and physiology because it feels like I went down like about a different language. It's a different language on a different planet.
[00:19:33] Aneta: Yeah.
[00:19:33] Sofia: And the last session I did was with an animal who had breast cancer, and she brought me into her physical body and we did like a repair on her DNAI actually felt the DNA getting repaired.
[00:19:46] Aneta: Wow. Why are we starting to see and hear more about animals also getting breast cancer and different types of cancers that they just never got before? Is it the plastics? Is it the toxins?
[00:19:57] Sofia: So many things. It's the toxins, it's the food, it's the vaccinations, it's the chemtrails. It's like our food isn't regulated. I've seen kidney failure in dogs. I'm like, that doesn't happen. But it's because of the polarity of light and dark.
And the dark has had more of an influence in the past than it does now. Yeah, I mean, don't really want to get into that because it's conspiracy, but I'm going to do it anyways because it's not there's an agenda to depopulate the planet and it's through our food system. It's through our air, it's through our water. It's through the vaccines. It is through everything. And it's affecting the animals too.
[00:20:39] Sofia: Like animals shouldn't get breast cancer, animals shouldn't get kidney failure. It's just because of the food and like you think about our water. I was in Bend a couple weeks ago and I counted 50 chem trails all flying around the sun to block the sun.
Now there are heavy metals in those chemtrails that affect us. We also all have parasites and there's so many things that all of us have and the glyphosate and there's so many levels of things that really affect them because they're so pure, they're innocent. And their contract has been to be the emotional support for humans. They don't want that contract anymore.
[00:21:21] Aneta: Wow. Do you work with all types of animals, yeah. And do you have, I hate to say pick a favorite, but do you have any that some animals or types of animals that you just naturally seem to be drawn to or maybe they're drawn to you?
[00:21:37] Sofia: It's an interesting question. Like I recently did chickens. Which was really fascinating because they had a collective consciousness that needed to be shifted well, that they asked to have shifted, and I was like, wow, it never occurred to me.
So for me, it's more like, it's the joy of whoever wants to come to me, finding out what they need. I'd love to work on a cow because I think that would just be fabulous. I don't why, but I just want to work on a cow. But it doesn't really matter who it is because we're all consciousness and I get to delight in whoever comes in.
I had a dog a couple months ago. He was a terrier. He was sick of being a terrier. I'm like, okay. He's like, can we just go back like 20 generations and deactivate that terrier thing? And I'm like, Because I don't know, I didn't know what the animal wants.
And so we did and we finished the session and he was chill. Finally. I don't have to be the bouncy, obnoxious terrier thing that I've been my whole life. I was like, that's really amazing.
[00:22:47] Aneta: That's really interesting. So when you are connecting to these animals, for those that have never experienced something like this, what is it? Is it an inner knowing?
[00:22:56] Sofia: It's a channel. So I say I call on source energy, all of my higher wisdom and self and all of their higher wisdom and selves to ask for the highest healing, to be facilitated through me and ask that whatever comes through is integrated with ease and grace for the highest good of all.
And so it is, it just said it's done. And that's how I started. And then I literally become a channel. I hear they take me what's recently happened is like first they take me through a body talk session and then they take me through things that I've just learned that's not part of the Body Talk system that is just like coming through.
And then sometimes they'll actually talk to me and tell me what to tell their humans. I prefer small ego prefers to work with pictures. But I can tune into energy. I don't need a picture to work with an animal. If the animal wants me to, I will. I worked with a sheep in England about four months ago, and the woman was going to send me a picture.
The sheep came into my heart space before I got the picture, and I was like. This is not me, this is someone else. And she showed me what she needed and the vet was going to put her down because she was lame. We tuned in and her right elbow had heartbreak in it.
[00:24:14] Aneta: Heartbreak.
[00:24:17] Sofia: Every body part has consciousness, which is a whole trippy thing too. And her brother had just died. So the masculine side of her body was experienced heartbreak because her brother had just died. We deactivated it and within a week she was walking.
[00:24:30] Aneta: Wow. So you saved her life.
[00:24:33] Sofia: I did.
[00:24:34] Aneta: That's amazing.
[00:24:35] Sofia: That's why I love doing this because like I get to go where conventional medicine doesn't know how to go.
[00:24:42] Aneta: So Sofia, animals they're just so wonderful and we as humans sometimes are trickier. We're a little bit harder. Do you also work with humans or what have you found is the biggest difference between humans and animals?
[00:24:54] Sofia: Humans need a lot more sessions.
[00:24:56] Aneta: They do.
[00:24:56] Sofia: A lot more sessions. Yeah.
[00:24:57] Aneta: What is that? Is it control? Is it the mind? Is it like the doubt that you talked about?
[00:25:03] Sofia: Is the control? It's the levels of subconscious and unconscious that we have. We have layers and layers of it. And animals just don't like when Winnie lets me finally work with her. We will have one session and she'll be complete. I don't have repeat clients with animals.
[00:25:21] Aneta: Wow.
[00:25:22] Sofia: Rarely, because they just get it. It's one session and they're fine. And humans, like I had it for like eight years.
[00:25:30] Aneta: But is body talk designed for animals and for humans.
[00:25:35] Sofia: It's actually primarily designed for humans. I don't really need to know the anatomy of an animal because like they'll tell me. That anatomy and physiology class I don't need to know it because I already know it, if that makes sense.
[00:25:49] Aneta: Yeah, it does, that's fascinating. Do you work with horses? Do you ever work with horses?
[00:25:52] Sofia: I love working with horses.
[00:25:54] Aneta: Aren't they magical?
[00:25:55] Sofia: I have one experience that was remote and it had a virus and we deactivated the virus. His companion died of the virus.
The horse that I worked on was fine the next day horse is really integrated. I did one session with a horse that a Ferrier showed me and I put my hand on the horse flow, like I don't even know what came through, because it was so fast. because she was like, oh, finally somebody gets to work with me. It was so fast that I was just really just feeling energy flowing through me. And it was maybe like five or 10 minutes because it was just a super fast. And then she did like a full body shake. I was like, wow, that was a fast integration.
And the farrier said, oh, that was a fly. And I'm like. A fly is twitch. A fly isn't like a full body shake. And so with the horses, it is just, they integrate it so fast. It's amazing.
[00:26:47] Aneta: What about ancestral patterns? Do animals get it too, or is it mostly just humans and how does that present itself?
[00:26:54] Sofia: I'll use Winnie again as an example. Epigenetically, there's been trauma for about 10 gen generations. So it's in her epigenetics.
It's like, it's us. I'm like tuning in. It's more like their amygdala because I don't feel that they have reptilian brains, but they pick up on ours. And they overcompensate for our fears. But yeah, it's mostly like adrenal fatigue kind of stuff. And not being in the parasympathetic mode because most animals, if they're in harmony, 95% of the time, they're chill. They might want to play, but they're not anxious,
[00:27:32] Aneta: Yeah. And speaking of that, knowing that so many of us humans are either in a state of burnout or have challenges with mental health right now, and anxiety and all types of things. We know animals are very sensitive to this, so what are we seeing in terms of like how we're impacting the animals with what we're experiencing as humans?
[00:27:55] Sofia: It's interesting because they'll either get heightened anxiety, you'll see them pacing around, drinking a lot of water, wanting to go out a lot, or wanting a lot of attention. What is the deeper message though, is that they're shifting their consciousness like we are, and they want to have different contracts with us.
So they don't want to be our emotional support beings anymore. They want to be interdependent with us, and we get to be their stewards. Like right now I'm Winnie Steward, like I'm taking care of her to the best of my abilities. I'm learning her idiosyncrasies and quirks, and I'm just here for her support and she can do her life and we'll interact when we want to and when it's not aligned, she does who she is, and I do who I am. And that's where we're heading.
[00:28:43] Aneta: It's so interesting. That makes me think of the animals are saying, yeah, we're going to put up some healthy boundaries with you humans, because what's going on is not working for us anymore. Is that what it feels like?
[00:28:55] Sofia: And the younger ones definitely have more light. So anyone that's under two doesn't really carry much trauma because it's like the babies right now they're carrying more light. But the older ones still carry the trauma because they still have the ancestral patterns.
[00:29:10] Aneta: Fascinating. So I know you, you said you came into this world knowing this, and right now it feels we are divided as humans. It feels like there's so much divisiveness and there's so much anger and violence and even just with words. So what is happening? What do we need to do to just come back to this place of no separation, more unity more love for one another.
[00:29:38] Sofia: Love yourself first. And by that practice that I showed you with the four diaphragms that really gives your body permission to feel. And the problem with humans is that we go into story like you want to know what it is that caused this. I used to, anyways, like I remember there's one time I'm doing inner child work and my little girl, my 6-year-old girl looks at me and says, stop.
I'm like, what? She's like, you're turning 30 years of research since I started researching at 18. You're turning that you have a PhD and you're turning that level of research and knowing that you will find the thing. You're turning that on me. Are you kidding me? You're retraumatizing me and I'm like, honey, I'm so sorry.
Because inner child work is like all about finding the thing. It's helpful to a point, but ultimately your body just wants to know it's safe. And that's a process. It's somatic work. This is the basis of what I do on myself a lot, is the somatic work of just being present with myself, not distracting myself.
Getting off of media, all media, go out in nature, take your shoes off, hug a tree, literally. I love to lay on the ground, like when it's not raining or snow or anything like that, I will lay on the ground for an hour. I did this I was at Silver Falls in September and I did my hike, which was amazing.
I was already really connected. And then I ground after the hike. It was like I took some sort of psychedelic trip because I was in such a state of presence and gratitude and there was nothing outside of me that mattered because I was just so happy in that space of presence.
But that takes effort. It takes patience, it takes kindness to self and, even if you just start with a simple engaging your four diaphragms and breathe like that for two minutes to start to give your body permission to relax because we got to start somewhere. And a lot of people are in that anxiety.
I feel like the day before, I felt this incredible like holding breath anticipation, anxiety, energy, and the next day, I felt this shift in the energy like some sort of frequency change, ultimately it's more light. I don't know why or how, but that's what I feel.
And for anyone who's just beginning to realize they're a multidimensional divine being. It's scary because ultimately what we're being called to is not look outside of ourselves for leaders. We're supposed to be our own leaders, and that takes practice.
[00:32:27] Aneta: I love that advice and I've done that for myself and also told my clients to do the same thing. Get off the social media, turn off your notifications for every article that's coming through that is just created to incite an emotional response from you and just do more of the things that allow you to go within. Because we create so many stories. And a lot of times they're pretty harmful.
[00:32:50] Sofia: Yeah. And what brings you joy?
[00:32:52] Aneta: right?
[00:32:53] Sofia: Really does watching your telegram feed or your Instagram or whatever, does that bring you joy? Probably not.
Does hugging your animal bring you joy? Does having a warm cup of tea bring you joy? Like really focus on, in that moment. And it's hard because like in the gene keys my number four is presence. And when I found that out, I just laughed. I was like, wow, I picked that one. Okay. because that's the hardest one for me because I haven't been for so long.
And right now my soul is telling me like, mono task, you don't have the capacity to multitask anymore, which is awesome.
[00:33:29] Aneta: It is it's actually very freeing, isn't it, to decide, okay, this is what's important and I'm going to give all of myself to it in this moment.
Sophia, you're such a light. It's just amazing the work that you are doing. If folks want to work with you either for themselves or for a loved one, or for their loved beings what is the best way that they can find you and get a hold of you?
[00:33:50] Sofia: The easiest way is heal.me/sofia-risberg and you can book a discovery call with me there.
[00:34:02] Aneta: Wonderful. We'll include the link in the show notes, and then the final question that I ask is, what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?
[00:34:10] Sofia: To allow oneself to experience the joy of being the fullest extent to understand the multidi dimensionality of what we are, and to put it in 3D terms. I have a stick shift, four wheel drive, BMW. I love driving her at fast speeds around corners. I also love baking. I also love grounding.
I also love communicating with trees. I love all of the aspects of me. There's not one that conflicts with another. They're all just aspects of expressions of what I am and to explore that to the fullest stability that I can. I make myself limitless or recognize my limitlessness within. That's it.
[00:34:59] Aneta: Beautiful. Thank you so much for the amazing work you do in this world, and thank you for spending some time with me today. I really enjoyed it.
[00:35:06] Sofia: Me too. Thank you so much, sister.
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