How to Connect With Your Higher Self and Find Inner Peace
MonaLisa Coburn
(YouTube Transcript)
Aneta (00:03): MonaLisa, thank you for joining the Live the With of Your Life podcast.
Dr. MonaLisa (00:08): Thank you so much. It is a true honor and a pleasure to be here.
Aneta (00:12): Yeah, it's so exciting. I wanted to start with a question. Usually I ask this toward the end of my conversations, but today I was called, for some reason, to ask you this first. And so the title of the podcast is Live the Width of Your Life, which is tied to a quote by Diane Ackerman. And the quote says, I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I've just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well. And so I know you teach a lot about soul purpose, and you talk about consciousness. And so from a spiritual perspective, like what do you feel about living the width of your life? Like what does that mean to you?
Dr. MonaLisa (00:53): So living the width of a life to me means that you learn how to live heaven on earth so that every day you love the moment you're in. And that's exactly where I'm at on my journey. And I tell people, it took a long time to turn that train around.
I like to tell people: think of a train that has cars, and some of us have a lot of cars attached, and we have to get rid of that old baggage, the cars that no longer serve us, and you pretend like you're a train going into a railroad station. And as you get rid of an old belief, it is always best to put the new belief in place; for some of us, we see it as a choice, and it's easier for us to do. But living the width of my life really means that I live heaven on earth, and that I love the moments I'm in. And my heaven on earth, by the way, is not gonna be the same as yours. And it's learning to kind of, you see, dance to the rhythm of your life, and when the dance is positive and in joy, you go in that direction. And it doesn't mean that you ignore the other stuff other people do in their own dance, but you realize your life is about you; it's about coming to terms with who you are and loving you, even the dark, the mud, the ick, and people are like, Well, you don't understand what I've done. And so I'm like, Well, your higher self does, and so what's your higher self, first of all, right? Because I'm talking in these spiritualist terms, you don't really have to know, but for those of you who want to know, your higher self is the person that sees across your timelines and knows exactly where you're going.
And you can have conversations with your higher self. I like to teach people to think of your finger now as the person you are in your crystalline form, and your finger as your spirit. So when you pass over, you die, and that's your soul. So your finger is your spirit, and your hand is your first higher self. So it's your first over soul.
The other fingers in your hand are your past lives, and the fingers on the other side of your hand are your future selves. And so the over soul knows what's lessons, remembers, and knows what lessons you picked for this life. And we all picked those very difficult lessons that get us in the mud. They're different for each of us, and they vary vastly, and people are like.
How do I overcome that? How do I get out of that thinking that it is just a perspective? So first, you begin to overcome it by realizing you have a choice in how you look at it. You can see yourself as a victim or learn that that's just a perspective; that's a limiting belief. And so if you let the limiting belief go, if it's negative, I tell people it's negative; it's from the ego; it's a limiting belief. And so if it's positive, you just keep going down your beautiful life that way. But if it's something negative, question it. Why do I believe I'm stuck? Why do I believe I don't have enough time to do the things I want to?
Those are beliefs you have bought into from your loved ones or your community, or from how you see life through the people around you in your country. So begin to question them. Why do I have these beliefs? If it's positive, keep going that way. If it's negative, like a limiting belief, then it's from the ego; then you can let it go.
Aneta (04:42): So tell me a little bit more about your own soul journey, your spiritual journey, that brought you to doing the work that you're doing today.
Dr. MonaLisa (04:50): So I have so many beautiful stories on that. And so one of my soul journeys is that I had a sister who was mentally slow and physically very difficult for her to maneuver life. And for the last fifteen years, she was wheelchair-bound, and in the last year, probably, maybe, in bed because she had Parkinson's. So I tell everyone everything I ever needed to learn; I learned from my sister. So we were very close. I even became a special education teacher because I wanted to help her out, right? And so the first lesson I got in my linear life was that I had three very small children.
She was 10 years older than me, but we loved each other dearly. And when she passed, one of the things I really enjoyed was dreaming. I like to interpret dreams. I'd always think it's fun. I interpret my friends' dreams. I'm what they call a lucid dreamer. I lucid dream. So lucid
Aneta (05:48): What does that mean? Sorry, what does it mean to me? Mm-hmm.
Dr. MonaLisa (05:51): dreaming means you realize you're when you're asleep that you're in a dream. And that's the first step of lucid dreaming. And people are like, well, so what? There are a lot of things that you can do once you learn how to control your dream. Number one: if you're having a nightmare, you can say, "I'm in control of this dream," and make it positive. That's kind of the first step of lucid dreaming. The second step is when you're in the dream state and you wake up; you can talk to your spirit guides, you can talk to your higher self. It's like a bridge.
Because your brain waves have slowed down to that theta state. It teaches you more or less how to navigate this reality more from that state, from lucid dreaming. It's one of the things I teach in my book, The Joy of Unconsciousness, and I really teach it. I have an academy, Soul Navigators Academy. We practiced interpreting each other's dreams and anything metaphysical someone would want to know, especially if it's about your soul journey. So that's what lucid dreaming is. So I would always have these dreams, right? And after she passed away, I quit dreaming. I remember there was a presence in a dream I had. And I can't think of another name for it except for the source of all that is, God. I didn't see anyone. I felt the bright light.
And I'm like, I'm with God. And I thought, okay, now that I'm with God, what am I gonna ask? I remember thinking that because I always wanted to know, like, do puppies go to heaven? I wasn't a medium then, in a real sense. I got information from past loved ones, but I didn't know how to get it or to really receive it regularly. All these questions that you think, when I get to heaven, I'm gonna ask God.
So the first thing I said was, why'd you take my dreams away? Because I had quit dreaming, and I got to protect you. The second question I asked God was, "I only wanted to make her happy." And I will never forget the answer. Not your job. Meaning that one's job is to make one happy.
Happiness comes from within; it's a perspective. And even though my sister looked broken to most people, she always gave a big smile, and she always was happy. She was such a giver; everyone loved her because she always gave beautiful smiles. And if she had a penny in her pocket, I thought she had money. She was always giving me money. And after she passed, my mom said she was kinda broke. But if she had a dollar in her pocket, even as a young adult, she would see me and give it to me. So she was a giver of love. And so that kind of broke me open. And about three months later, I'm driving down a narrow road, and my baby's in it's 1996. My sister died in 1996 in July. And this would be about October-ish, or maybe even August. I'm in the minivan, and my baby's in the front. And I think I see her like an angel. I didn't know what else to say, but for years I've described it like I saw an angel. She was an angel; she was perfect; she was healthy.
And part of that is to teach me on the other side. You're not broken. So people really want to know that. You're not broken on the other side. You look beautiful. And
Aneta (09:10): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (09:11): I saw her, and she said, " Slow down, and Mom needs you too. And so I slowed the vehicle down, expecting to see a big truck or something as I turned the corner. I only had my right hand on the steering wheel. I grabbed it with my left too, and I slowed down.
And I turned the corner, and the baby car seat and all came flying and hit my left hand. And I had to use that hand to save the baby in the car seat and to move over and to move over safely. So she saved my life that day and my babies. And remember she said, And Mom needs you too. Of course, I'm living in 3D, not really awakened. So I'm doing the linear thing, right? Not the width, the linear. Because I told myself I was making it up.
Aneta (09:58): You're making it up. You didn't believe it. Or you tried to talk yourself out of it.
Dr. MonaLisa (10:03): Yeah, exactly right. I tried to talk myself out. I must have had a crazy moment. Yeah. And so I couldn't sleep though that night, right? And I remember my mom telling me once she got up at seven, so I called her the next morning, and she answered. And I said, Mom, how are you? And she goes, I'm okay. Funny you asked. I cried all day yesterday missing your sister, asking God for a sign. So we both cried.
Aneta (10:34): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (10:35): And that started down my path. For many years I taught special education, but it didn't quite feel right. I knew I was missing something. So, how I lived the width of my life, I slowly began doing something I love every day. And it really started with something physical. I loved movement, so I jogged or walked an hour a day. And that's all I had time for while my children were going. It's all I thought I had time for because, remember, that's a limiting belief.
Aneta (11:03): Yeah. Right.
Dr. MonaLisa (11:05): And so I got to the point where my work, even though there are certain aspects I love with all my heart, it didn't feel right. And I started to get ill. I started to get this real pain in my neck. So, pain in your neck- if you have pain in your neck, it's your body saying, what are you carrying that you're not supposed to be carrying? What are you doing that you're not supposed to be doing? And I'm like, I need to give up my job. I'm like, well, if I give up my job, I don't have any income. And so I'm like, Okay, so how can I work after giving up my job? So I began taking mediumship classes because I knew I had these medium experiences, but I didn't know how to control them or really talk to the dead. They could come and deliver a message, but that was about it. And so I started taking mediumship classes when I wasn't at work and those types of things. I would take a class and think, well, that was interesting, but it didn't really work for me. So I would take it from someone else and someone else. And finally it all just clicked into place. And then I wrote a book called Downloads of One Consciousness. And after I finished the book, my spirit team stepped forward and went as a spirit team. It's your guides. It's your guides that you pick on the other side before you incarnate. And they said, since you wrote the book? Downloads from one consciousness, would you please teach one consciousness?
Aneta (12:26): Can I ask you a question? When people tell me that they go to medianship schools or programs, I really don't even understand what happens. So you had messages; you felt like you could hear things or download messages, even when you weren't seeking them. It sounds like they came.
Dr. MonaLisa (12:45): Right, yeah, that's right.
Aneta (12:46): So what happens at these programs? Just for anyone listening that might be curious, like me, what happens when you're going, and someone teaches you how to be more open or receptive?
Dr. MonaLisa (12:55): Okay, so the most important thing I can tell you is that you need a place to practice, and you need to learn how to do it ethically, and you need to learn how to do it for the highest, highest good. So I actually have an academy, Soul Navigators Academy, and what it does is I provide space. I have a time once a week where a group meets.
And if people join the academy and say, I'll join your academy, but I can't make that time, then I make a time for that student. So that student has someone to practice with. The most important thing you can do is what I call setting in a sacred circle. And that is with another person, and with others, you practice. And so practicing really says to your higher self. Taking a course says to your higher self, I want this. I want to learn this. And so I try to make a one-stop shop in my book. So I teach you how to do it in my book. But those who want to, like, be a medium and charge money for it, I really encourage you to come to my classes because in my class I provide the space, the opportunity to practice it. And there is a difference between, like, I teach the difference between a psychic and a medium. What's a psychic? Let me give you a couple examples so you understand. A psychic can go in and tell you the timeline: this happened, and that happened. But they may not have had training. And if you don't have training, then you don't know if it's for the highest good.
So what do I mean by that? One time I had a student, and I let students work together one-on-one, and I'll pop in on classes, right? And so this one lady wanted to know why her father burnt her house down. And the psychic, who was brand new, was like, Well, I see him. He's evil, he's mean, he's torturing your house and tortured it with gas, which is how he really did it. So she could see that.
Aneta (14:50): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (14:51): But you have to understand what good does that do?
Aneta (14:54): Right.
Dr. MonaLisa (14:55): What kind of message is that? And so, in a very loving way. I had to come in and say, okay, let's regroup, let's breathe. So messages from the other side, we always deliver messages for the highest, highest good. And I said, let me intervene just so you can learn how the psychic, I said, so you can learn how to deliver what I'm getting from that. Okay.
Aneta (15:20): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (15:21): And so the message actually from her father's higher self, because he was still alive, was that I was ignorant. I didn't know any better. I thought she was a witch, because she was studying and practicing to be a medium. And that's why he burned down the house. So I delivered the message out of love and out of guidance. I spent time with the two of them going back and forth and making everything clear and done in love and light, because that's how you want it. So that's what happens at these, and the difference between mine and a lot of the classes I took online was that I wanna say they're live, right? I have a weekly live class. So I have a Zoom, and it's all done on Zoom, and so you have the live class available. So yeah. So
Aneta (16:10): Thank you for sharing that. Because yeah, I just wanna clarify, and then the other interesting thing you said was about the spirit guides or the team. So did I hear you correctly that before we come into this earthly body, we already select who our spiritual guides will be during our lifetime? Is that true?
Dr. MonaLisa (16:30): Yes. Yes. So we select a council or a team, and know that if they feel like it, maybe none of them is a good auto mechanic and you decide you want to go into auto mechanics, they'll go get one. They'll bring someone in. We pick a team and the team normally is a master guide before we incarnate and we have like a family guide, whether you're gonna have children or not, and how many child you pick all how many kids you're gonna have or not. And you pick a career guide, right? There are certain guides we pick on the other side. And as you need them, they'll come in. And so my team has actually grown exponentially while I do the spiritual stuff, because in this space I can feel like right now I know I have ascended masters around me. And who are ascended masters? Ascended masters are those who walked in enlightenment, like Buddha, Yeshua, Ben Joseph, Mary Magdalene. So they were people who were enlightened before they passed away. So they're over there as guides for a lot of us, and we can call them in, and they will help us.
Like one of the most beautiful messages I ever got was from Mary Magdalene. She was like, fear, which is a big thing that we all carry, and it keeps us living in a linear way. It keeps us believing what we still believe. She goes, you know, fear is just buying into the illusion of earth. Fear isn't real. And she said, how you know something isn't real is if it's eternal, it's real. So our souls, our spirit, is real; it's eternal. Our experiences are real; they're eternal. Love is real; it's eternal. But when we get to the other side, we only look at it through the lens of love. So we can see how, as we walk through the muck, that's okay
That allows me now, on the other side, to really appreciate source more, to really appreciate the light more, to really appreciate love. And it raises our frequency higher and higher because everything is done with love. So yeah, don't know how I got off on that one, but yeah. So it's part of living the width of our life that we all agree on. So we have certain things we all agree to before we come down.
Right now in third density, 99% of us have agreed that we will forget that we're separated, that we are not separated from God or all that there is. So you can call God all that is. That's what Archangel Michael calls God, all that is. And he says God is everything, everyone, everywhere. Nothing doesn't contain God.
So we agreed to forget that. And we also agreed that death isn't real. So death is like we cross over. So at the moment of death, we just slough off our physical body, right? And our breath takes us out- our consciousness- into our spiritual body. So, as our consciousness is the sacred geometry container, I mean, our soul body is the geometry container for our consciousness. So we will still feel like us, and we will still look like us. But like I said, when we get over there, no one wants to be really old. So people normally pick around in their thirties. I've had extended masters; I've had others who come in and say, I earned these wrinkles. They choose to keep them. But for the most part, most of us go to it in our thirties. yeah.
Aneta (19:59): So for those that have you mentioned that we also choose the journeys that we have in our lifetime. So would you say that those who suffer the most are stronger? Like they're seeking to go through some of those lessons for a reason.
Dr. MonaLisa (20:15): yeah, so we picked the really tough lessons. We pick those really tough lessons because we're in a master school room earth, and we want to grow our soul exponentially. Right now, a lot of us have taken on those really dark lessons because we said we want to awaken.
We want to raise our consciousness. We've had thousands, literally, and some of us millions, of incarnations where we've lived in lower frequencies, and we said, we're done. So how do we get to these higher frequencies? We get to these higher frequencies. The simplest way to say it is by living in the heart space, by living in love, learning to love yourself unconditionally. My team is very clear about that.
And so when you are going through a difficult lesson, or a lot of people say, 'I'm stuck in these challenges.' I said, 'Well, be careful what you call challenges. Start thinking of them as lessons.' And then after you think of them as lessons for a while, you can say, Okay, they're gifts. So when the muck starts to hit you in the face, you can ask yourself why. Number one, if it's that kind of mud that's really sticking to you, like grief, those are things we did pick from the other side. And why would we do this to ourselves? Because think of a dark night sky. That's how the light gets in, right? That's how we appreciate the stars. It's not just that we can see the stars.
But in the really dark skies, the stars shine so bright; we just appreciate them so much more. We're struck with awe. And so that's what that really dark mud does for us. It takes that mud for that lotus to grow, and that's who we all are. And the more we love ourselves unconditionally, the more we keep people from living the width of their life.
That unconditional love for self. I get clients all the time who say, I love myself. And then I stop and have them take a deep breath. And I said, But do you love yourself on a really bad day? Do you love yourself for what happened to you as a child? And they said, Well, mm, I just had a client yesterday that said, I will not forgive my mom. And
And I said, forgiveness is a gift you give yourself. And there's dark, and there's dark, and then there's dark. So we're talking about top-level darkness here. I'm not gonna name it. I don't want to give it energy. Everything
Aneta (22:53): Yeah, yeah, no.
Dr. MonaLisa (22:57): so I said when you forgive someone, it breaks that dark. It breaks that lower frequency they have on you. It frees your soul, not their soul. It's not excusing what they did, even if you feel like you don't mean it and you say, I forgive them, source, your higher self knows what you mean, knows that you're learning to forgive. And eventually you'll be able to say that, and you'll think, wow.
The first time I said it a couple of years ago, I didn't mean it, but I said it. And now I say it, and I know I'm free of those chains. I'm free of the lower frequencies. Because think of it as an invisible chain from you to them. And forgiveness lets that chain go. And that, yeah.
Aneta (23:47): Yeah, it keeps you connected in a bad way if the unforgiveness is still there. It's like a reminder. As you said, I love this idea of this invisible chain because it's this connection, and not in a good way. So if someone is listening and they need to forgive someone, how would you guide them to release themselves from that, even if they don't mean it, but they do want to release themselves from that connection? What are some ways that they can do that?
Dr. MonaLisa (24:14): One of the ways I teach in my book is to write yourself a letter. You can write a letter to yourself; you can write it to them. And then I encourage people to bury the letter, because Mother Gaia will take care of it if it's paper; we wanna be respectful to Mother Gaia.
Or you can burn the letter. Because, see, when you do something like that, you're writing it and you're getting it out of your system. I know what my mother did to me, and I'm having a hard time forgiving her, but in this letter I'm saying what she did was wrong, but I forgive her anyway. Okay.
Aneta (24:47): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (24:49): And you're just putting your thoughts on paper. And don't judge your thoughts. Your thoughts are your thoughts. You came in to have your thoughts. And so remind me of that later. That's a really good one. My team is just a don't forget that. So it's something, bet, thoughts.
Aneta (25:02): What part?
Dr. MonaLisa (25:03): So you write your letter, and then you want to transmute the energy, the negative energy. Write it as best you can, without judgment. And then when you burn it, it transmutes the words, the energy into smoke. And that's saying I give it over to a higher power.
And so that is definitely one way you can do it. And you don't have to have a face-to-face. Another way is to just say it, because your words are like spells. Your words are powerful. And so be cognizant of that. So if you say, "I forgive you," even though you don't feel it yet, know that these words carry energy, okay?
And your higher self knows you're learning to forgive. And maybe the first time you say it, you really don't mean it, and you just break a few of the chains. You can breathe into that. And if you fill the space, I encourage people to say it like three times in a row and know it's done. Know it's done each time those chains break, okay? It only takes once to break the chains.
And what Spirit gave me is one time: when Yeshua Ben Joseph, what people call Jesus Christ, was on the cross and he says, "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they've done."
Aneta (26:22): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (26:23): So just those words, he understood that they were in lower frequencies, that they had no idea what they were doing, that as they killed him, they were killing other parts of themselves, but he did. And so in doing that he washed away any chains, any connections, any karma that he had. So yeah. And at the same time it's interesting because
Aneta (26:44): Yeah. And at the same time, it was interesting because the thief next to him who asked for his forgiveness, he said, " You'll be with me in paradise today. Yeah, it's so interesting.
Dr. MonaLisa (26:54): Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Aneta (26:57): So what happens to folks who don't have any kind of spiritual connection? They feel disconnected from God; they may not even know that they have a spirit team available. What is that like?
Dr. MonaLisa (27:11): I run across these people all the time. That's what my work is about. Yeah. Yeah.
Aneta (27:13): Right, I imagine.
Dr. MonaLisa (27:15): So, the first thing I teach them is you have a soul, so what source God has taught me is that you can have whatever religion and be spiritual. So a lot of people
Are like, they might have a strong belief, a strong, like, let's say my belief was Christian, and I didn't think I was taught that being a medium was like being a witch.
But I have a very personal connection with Yeshua bin Joseph. He is a master teacher for me, and I wouldn't give it up for the world. Okay.
And then they think if you're a spiritualist, you have multiple gods; a lot of Christians will think you have multiple gods. So it's not true. There is only one God, and that is all that there is. And to really access that, so what's it like? It is like flipping a light switch and realizing you are a soul having a human experience. And if you don't know where to begin, I simply ask people, "You can say that I'm a soul having a human experience." My soul, teach me what that means. And I want to give credit to Ascended Master Wayne Dyer for reminding me of that right now, because he must have taught that, right?
So you are a soul having a human experience, and you can ask yourself, " Show me what that means. And that's like the first step. The second step, when you realize you have an eternal soul, right? Is to realize death isn't real. You're just crossing over. And then once you do that, my team is all about two things. Following the positive energy stream. What does that mean? This is how God talks to you personally. So, following your intuition. If it's neutral, like peace, calmness, neutrality, or those good feelings- happiness, joy, just feeling good. That's your connection, your intuition telling you to go that direction. That's your guidance from your higher self, from your spirit guides, from source energy: that direction.
So you follow the positive energy stream. If it's negative, if it's a negative thought like, ooh, I'm too scared to do that. I don't know how to give up the logic, the thinking mind, it's depression, sadness, you're still in that linear thinking and you want to plan everything out. Every five minutes of your life you're planning it out.
That is ego, okay. So ego, remember, is just the brain. The brain is just an organ, and it was great back in the caveman days when we needed to run from the tiger or the bear. And so that has stayed with us. And so you can just say, okay, ego, you're not in charge anymore. My intuition is my positive energy stream.
And so that's what my team really encourages. And so I tell people you can start really small, five minutes a day, following a positive energy stream, as I did. I gave myself an hour a day to go out jogging and walking. And the miracle of that was, eventually, that's when my team started talking to me because I was doing something I love. And how do you know you're on the right soul path, right?
When you do things you love, for instance, I'm thinking of my niece. She goes two hundred miles an hour. She wakes up, she mucks the barn; it keeps her healthy. She's like seventy-five, and she looks like, I don't know, fit, marvelous, you know, very young. And so she gets up, she mucks the barn, and she says hello to animals, and then she does some dog training on top of that, and then about every afternoon when she's in the mood, she goes into her barn and she does pottery and she sells her pottery and now she makes a good living off of it.
Aneta (31:19): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (31:19): At 75, come on, guys, she can do it; you can do it. And so it's about following that positive energy stream a little bit at a time, then a lot. But the second thing to that is unconditional love for yourself. Not you said.
Aneta (31:38) Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (31:38): Why you put yourself through all that hard stuff, and why the hard stuff is still coming at you, is that you said you would learn to love yourself unconditionally. And when you love yourself unconditionally, your vibration rises. And when you love yourself unconditionally enough, all of a sudden you're gonna say, Wow, I feel peace in my heart. You understand that your is-ness is enough, that your beingness is enough.
Because all that is would not be complete without you. And guess what? You're eternal. You're not going anywhere. So just being, breathing, and being who you are is enough. Once you realize that and love yourself, peace comes from within, not from without. It's never gonna come from doing. It's never gonna come from the material world. It's never gonna come from that million dollars, this house, that car. It's only gonna come from within.
And from within, loving yourself, following the positive energy stream, and knowing you're enough. Your is-ness, your beingness is enough. And so once you get in that frequency and you have peace in your heart, you radiate out peace to your family and to your community, and it goes far beyond what you can imagine.
And it just ripples out into the cosmos. And this is how peace is really created on the planet. Each third-density planet, and planet Earth, master schoolroom Earth, is a third-density planet. And this is how third-density planets sit in peace. So there are third-density planets that are in peace, and they move to what they call fourth density. Earth is moving to fourth density.
Our consciousness has rated enough of us on the planet that we're moving into fourth density. And I tell people, if you want to be part of fourth density Earth, which is peace on Earth, it doesn't mean we're not going to have our challenges, our gifts, our lessons. We're still going to pick out lessons on the other side. And we're going to go into, like, the cosmos. We're not going to be just little planet Earth all by itself, right?
We're gonna actually go out amongst stars and our soul families, and they're gonna come here, and we're gonna go there. We're expanding. One consciousness expands and includes all and everything. There is only one God, one source energy, one consciousness, and we're all a part of it. So peace on the planet begins with peace within, which begins with you loving yourself unconditionally.
Aneta (34:13): Thank you for that. I think it's a beautiful message. And I do want to come back to your book because of the joy of one consciousness. I know that one of the things that you offer in your book is 108 recipes for understanding who we are at the soul level. What do you mean about these recipes? What does that look like for folks that might be curious about the book?
Dr. MonaLisa (34:36): So let's say you want to communicate to your higher self. I think I have one or two recipes for communicating with your higher self.
Aneta (34:45): Okay.
Dr. MonaLisa (34:45): And I first explain what the higher self is, and so it's yourself, your spirit self that sees across time and distance and knows exactly where you're going. Once I explain what it is, it's one of the great gifts you can give yourself.
And then I'll say how to do it. And it's laid out in steps one, two, three, four, and five. And then, in each recipe, at the very end, I'll share my real-life experience. And I will say exactly how I do it on a personal level; it'll be more like a story. So for each one, you get like a golden story, a nugget. It worked for her, so it can work for me type thing.
And that is kind of what pulls the book along is that you want, okay, I now I can talk to my higher self, then can I talk to grandma on the other side? So then I give you those recipes. And it just keeps going: you talk to grandma, you talk to your higher self, you want to talk to your pets? I have a recipe for that. And so that's exactly how it works.
Aneta (35:44): Okay, interesting. And if someone is curious, can you share a little bit more about what they could expect with the Soul Navigators Academy?
Dr. MonaLisa (35:53): So Soul Navigators Academy is all about you, your sacred spiral. Yours is different for everyone. So some people just want to come in, and they just want to heal themselves. They're stuck, dense in density. So I teach healing methods. Then I also give you that space to practice on other students and on me.
I teach different healing modalities. I teach Reiki. I teach layered energetic healing. So if someone like has a master's in Reiki, they can come and learn the different layers of energy healing. And so for some people, that's as far as they want to take it. For others, they really want to learn how to be a medium. And so when we break out into breakout rooms, I call them breakout rooms.
Then they will practice mediumship with another student. We also practice what I call dream navigating because I think dream navigating: once you can be lucid in your dream, you can be lucid in this dream. That's what it's given me. So what does that mean? It means that my consciousness is pulled back enough; let's say there's a car accident ahead of me, and this has actually happened.
And I know those people are gone; I'm not freaking out. I'm like, okay, this was a soul contract. In that moment, I'll send them love and light, especially to their family. But I'm very careful who I pray to because I don't want to interfere with their life path. So if I don't know them, I will often send it to their higher self. So you can all do that. To not interfere with someone's path, you can send them love and light to their higher self to disperse as they see fit.
And then I say that's their soul path. I sent them love and light. That's not the least thing I can do, but the greatest thing I can do for them is take a moment of my time and send love and light into their family. And then I go on with my day. Okay, so yeah, seeing a horrific accident can cause trauma if one doesn't realize all the parts that have gone into that, knowing that that person picked that time on that day on the other side for a reason.
And the reason is normally to wake up those who are still here. And if they're awake, it's to get here to go higher. So maybe they're awake, but they haven't stepped on their soul path, their highest path for their soul. And for them it might be learning to just simply love the moment you're in.
For many people on the planet, it's to be a light barrier. So it's learning not just to be that candle in the light, but not to let other people blow that candle out at will. And so my academy teaches
Aneta (38:38): That's beautiful. Dr. MonaLisa, if people are curious, they're interested, where can they learn more about you? What's the best way for them to do that?
Dr. MonaLisa (38:47): So my book is on Amazon. It's available as a hardcover, paperback, and on Kindle. I don't have it in audio yet. It might be a while because I work feverishly with my soul navigators, and I do have people coming in for intuitive services. So it's only so much, MonaLisa.
Aneta (39:04): Yeah.
Dr. MonaLisa (39:05): So right now it's like a recipe book. And I tell people, spend the extra couple bucks instead of giving me a buck; give me two bucks, and you'll have the hardcover, and it's like a recipe book. The ones that really speak to you, you can use again and again and again. So Amazon.com for The Joy of One Consciousness. And if you put in Mona Lisa Coburn, that'll bring it up as well, as well as my other books. And then I'm at Soul Navigators, soulnavigators.com
We'll get you to my main website, where I do my intuitive services. I would welcome you to come in for healing sessions. And then, if you tell me you're a podcast, I always give 50% off for the first time, up to 50% off, I say. After that, I have Soulnavigators Academy, which you can get through soulnavigators.com.
But if you're just interested in the academy, you can go straight to Soulnavigators Academy. And I do have a free class there. It's an amazing free class. It teaches you all about how to contact your higher self and have conversations. I teach three or four methods right there.
Aneta (40:13): Fantastic. We'll include all those links in the show notes. And I just want to wish you continued success doing the work that you're doing. I can see how passionate you are about it, Dr. MonaLisa, and I'm just grateful that you spent this afternoon with me.
Dr. MonaLisa (40:28): So am I. It was an honor to be here, and I can't thank you enough. Thank you. And my team thanks you for the work that you're doing. And your guides are saying thank you. They appreciate you very much, and they love you.
Aneta (40:40): Thank you.