Why High Achievers Burn Out and How to Recover Holistically
Akary Busto
(YouTube Transcript)
Aneta (00:03): Akary, welcome to Live the Width of Your Life podcast.
Akary (00:08): Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to dive in.
Aneta (00:11): I am so excited that you are here. Before we hit record, we just spent some time talking, and it was one of those conversations. I was like, we have to hit record because all the good stuff is already coming up. So I love it when that happens so much. Yeah.
Akary (00:26): It is one of those synchronicities, right?
Aneta (00:28): Yeah, absolutely. And before we dive too far in, I really would love for you to share a little bit about your background. I know that you are the founder of the Uhkare Mind Body Soul and that you are so passionate about the work that you do. But how did you get started in the line of work that you do?
Akary (00:46): We were talking before, it's all about that human design. That one, three, that profile. It's been a life experience. We were talking about this, and I shared with you that I feel like I've lived a million lives because of all of the different curious avenues that my research has taken me into. And I've experienced where I was exhausted, where I had no idea what was happening in my body.
And I couldn't even name it because there was no available name for it, even though it existed, but we don't talk about it enough. And so I've gone through a few different burnouts in my life. And the last one was more of a juggling corporate, juggling family, juggling life, juggling kid. Everything just kind of toppling down and not even knowing, my office is closed in downtown Los Angeles. And it was that pause that where my body just started falling apart. It was like it was being held by band-aids, you know?
Aneta Ardelian Kuzma (01:49): Yeah. My God. Band-aids and like floss. It's like, how do we hold ourselves together? I relate to that so much because I had the same experience in corporate. I was in the corporate 25 years. How long were you in corporate?
Akary (02:03): For about 20 years.
Aneta (02:05): Yeah, and it was one of those slippery slopes, it's interesting. And I don't know if this is your experience, but I find this with women and my coaching clients, too. We may feel ourselves starting to get really tired. We might start to feel the symptoms of burnout, but for me, instead of responding to it with kindness or grace or love and compassion to myself, I just decided I was going to dig in because I could do hard things.
And I was going to prove that I was not going to be broken. And it's one of those crazy things, as I look back and go, who told me that that was like the right thing to do? It didn't work. I mean, I had a health scare and all kinds of challenges, and my husband's like, who are you? All these things happen, right? Like when we go down this path. But I don't know why I think sometimes, as women, we feel like if we give in or we say whatever, this isn't working, that's somehow a personal failure.
Akary (02:59): And its weakness.
Aneta (03:01): Yes, it's a weakness.
Akary (03:03): Its weakness. I mean, think about this. We're constantly gaslighted, and then we start gaslighting ourselves. It's like someone permitted us to gaslight ourselves, and we don't allow ourselves to rest, and we don't allow ourselves to recover. And part of that generational gift. I mean, if you look at your mom, if you look at your grandma, if you start looking, you will find those patterns already set there. And it's ingrained in us on how productive women need to be and how together we've got to have everything. And I remember to go pick up a colleague, our little business suits, like I used to call it my monkey suit, and we're going up the escalator of the Bank of America building, trying to cross to the Wells Fargo building.
And then all of a sudden the stuff that she's carrying falls, and all the papers start getting eaten by the escalator as it's moving. One of those moments where I thought I was not the only one who didn't have it together. But you know, they look so perfect. So like immaculate. And there's no trace. There's no trace in the corporate communities where women can fall apart.
Aneta (04:17): No. And even admit that we might need something else. I remember ⁓ pretending, even though I was a mother and everyone knew I was a mother, and of course, some obligations come with that, but pretending that I didn't need to miss If you took time off for something, you had to take a vacation day. You didn't want to say, I need to leave early to go to a recital or something like that, because I didn't have someone at home who could do that for me. My husband was working.
So that was like a weird story. And then at home, just feeling like I had to respond in the way that a stay-at-home mom could for my daughters and for my husband. And so you have these two sets of pressures that nobody really put on me. I mean, I think I honestly took them on myself because I felt like I had to. Yeah. Right. And so you just kind of do that until
Akary (05:01): But we have this right? Mm-hmm, we stuff right up with it.
Aneta (05:08): For me, it was also a pause where I had to take a step, and I was just like, wait a second, this is not working. And it's so incredible that when we finally take the break and rest or pause or take time off, that we allow ourselves to listen to that inner voice that tells us, yeah, there's a different way. This doesn't have to be your reality. What was that for you? So you said you paused, and you suddenly started asking yourself different questions or noticing maybe.
Akary (05:37): It's interesting because a lot was going on, and the shame, I was shaming, needing to find a way to get back into the corporate world, and not wanting to. My body just wouldn't let me. I remember a young guy whom I met at one of these community fairs that they were having, and he wrote a book and the whole nine yards. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna volunteer. And he starts tapping my way into, and I felt re-traumatized. I was like, there's no way I wanna go back. And I was in the banking world, so very male-dominated. And just where are you? My God, what a coincidence. So thinking about being in a boardroom with a bunch of men
Aneta (06:09): Me too. I know.
Akary (06:24): or CEOs, I was like, no, like it just didn't feel good in my body. And it was like a visceral reaction to the generator going, yeah, not doing that. And, the curiosity started leading me to learn different types of meditation because I could not meditate for the life of me. was no way that I could sit still. And I remember trying several different things and
Aneta (06:34): Yes. Yes.
Akary (06:50): One of them wanted us to sit for 20 minutes. My daughter and I went to it, and she did beautifully. That was the one who was like, " This is just so boring. And that's how I ended up coming to work almost 10, 11 years ago; no one was talking about it. was like really like underground. And when I found it, I was like, this is exactly what I needed when I was in that corporate hamster wheel.
Aneta (07:01): Yeah, it's so interesting. I did yoga and meditation first, and then somatic breath work, probably within the last five years, but it was new. And I did pranayama as part of yoga, but it's different, I think. So when I found the somatic breath work also, I realized this could be really helpful for me, and it has been, but also for my clients who, like you, do not like meditation, who really have the monkey mind and don't want to sit through it, or it's too uncomfortable. And so it's so nice to be able to have additional practices that you can pull on and that are really helpful. And for me, I love to breathe, do it every morning. My husband does it with me before we even start the day. He never would have done that in the past.
Akary (08:00): I think especially for women, because we're constantly planning, constantly figuring things out, we're never really present. Active breath work is us actively participating in our meditation. And that is what I really love, but just disconnecting from my body and being able to go different places, that big exhale, that big exhale. That was it. I was hooked. Everything else I had taken before, the crystal classes, the essential oils, all of that was secondary to this. This became my tunnel vision. I was like, " This is amazing. And the way they train here is very different than how they train in England, in the UK, because it is regulated in the UK.
And so they have a whole curriculum similar to the yoga curriculum, where they have to have like 200 hours, 600 hours. So very similar. They have a curriculum, and they go through all the different types of breath work, who should and shouldn't be doing breath work, trauma that can be uncovered through this process, and the nervous system. And I was just like,
Okay, so we just got cheated here from all of this richness. And so I developed my own curriculum for myself, which I don't teach, but created a curriculum for myself. And that's how I ended up going down the rabbit hole of nervous system work.
Aneta (09:35): When you first read about nervous system regulation, and you actually had words that you could use and apply, what was that like for you? Because I remember, like when I started learning more about it.
Akary (09:47): It permitted me to sigh and to really stop blaming. Like, you stay in that victim space of, they did this to me. Especially like our caregivers, and they weren't there for me. All of that stopped because I realized, this story isn't even real because my amygdala and my hippocampus, it was like the irony of everything. And then I started getting a little angry at the brain, thinking, the brain is so arrogant, thinking it knows better than I do. And so I struggle with the concept that there are a lot of things that I don't remember, but that I feel like I know are true in my heart, and learning to trust my heart over my brain. That has the big shift.
Aneta (10:19): Yeah. It's such a game changer because, as you think about it, from a spiritual sense, and I know not everyone is spiritual, but our spirit is eternal, right? It's energy. Energy doesn't die. So if we kind of get behind that, the brain and the development of the prefrontal cortex and our ability to think and make decisions and all these things, that is like last. Our spiritual body, our energetic body, our emotions, our personality, all those things happen before we actually have a fully developed brain. And yet we glorify the brain, and we try to put everything through that processing system. And for me, I know in human design, I want to talk about this, like, that's not how I make my decisions. For me, when I learned that I can trust my sacral and I can actually listen to my body and not try to override it, because every time I have, I've regretted it afterwards, that too really made me feel like I'm not going to gaslight myself, as you said, I can actually trust this. I have this intelligence system within me, outside of the mind, and the mind can be really tricked, and it can trick us into thinking things that aren't real.
Akary (11:48): Yeah, that's what happens, is that fear that we have of making mistakes. As women, there's a huge unspoken expectation placed on us for perfection, on getting it right all the time. It's a huge burden for us to carry. And so because of that, we end up not trusting ourselves, really following our authority, how we should be making decisions, and understanding what clarity feels like, because it looks and feels different for everyone. For me, it's visceral. It's to the point that if I hardly eat out, but when I do, and it's not good for me, I can't even bring the food into my mouth. It won't even let me.
And then I will just set it down, and I'm like, I can't eat this. And my partner, of course, he's like, I'll eat it. And then all of a sudden goes in, and then he's got like stomach issues or doesn't feel well after. That's just how my body is responding after practicing and experimenting with that. And uh-uh.
Aneta (12:48): Yeah. Good. So let's talk about human design because you know so much about this and you work with your clients. So I'm curious, when did you discover human design, and what did that do when you also learned about your particular design?
Akary (13:12): I was angry. I was angry about it because I learned about human design through the traditional language of human design, which is meant to wake us up. Like, come on, you can wake. So when I found out I was a generator, I was in New York City with a friend, and she said, " You're the slave of the world. You're here to work. And I was like, " That doesn't sound sexy. I don't think so.
It allowed me to like my body again viscerally, was like, eh, like I am nobody's slave. Through the years, I got initiated by a couple of friends who were starting their own little business at the time, like 2019, and they were starting their podcasts, and they're like, we really want you on our podcasts. I was like number eight on their podcast. Well, their podcast exploded. And with that, my business exploded. So they initiated me into the world of human design, kicking and screaming because I didn't want to be a part of this movement that was happening. And as I started to get deeper into it, I met Karen Curry Parker, and she created quantum human design. And so through the lens of quantum human design, we change the wording, we change the frequency of the type of words that we use. And so a generator is here to create, to build, and to find joy in their work, a worker bee. And that just sounds so much more appealing than being enslaved to the traditional human design. I see it as the shadow part of who we are.
Aneta (14:42): Yes. interesting.
Akary (14:53): And then as we start to initiate, then we can start seeing things through the quantum lens. Because if you think about it, yeah, think about how many years we spent at corporate. We put our head down, and as much as we hated it, every day, five in the morning, we're up doing the things that we need to do. And we complain about it, but we do absolutely nothing to change it. Until finally your body, your situation, whatever makes you stop and reevaluate things.
So that's where quantum human design really just takes my heart. Because it changes all of that with a lot of love and compassion. We change the word to have a higher frequency meaning. And then you start to, for me, it was looking for what I was passionate about. And I'm a historian. I have my bachelor's in history, but it is really influenced by women's studies.
And so I dedicated a lot of my studying to women's history. And so when you're talking about the corporate world or when we talk about the hyphen, where we live in that hyphen, whether we're Mexican-American, Croatian-American, whatever it is, we live on this hyphen. And so I look at everything from a macro and then a micro. And so then we have mainstream culture, and then we have our social culture, our own ethnic culture, whatever it is that we identify with. And so we have two different paradigms that are pulling us constantly. They, the mainstream, shame us for being so cultural. The culture shames us for being too mainstream.
And so then you're living in one world with two sets of rules, constantly trying to keep up with these changing rules to comply with whatever is going to make whoever happy and typically it's our mothers because we get a lot of pressure from them and finally, it's like Breaking away with the conditioning and that's where human design comes in where I am no longer going to live by the things that you believe the things that you believe and the things that you think I should be or not be I am going to start taking a moment to dive into what makes me happy what brings me joy and what like really feels in my body like is the right thing to do. And that's what human design became for me.
Aneta (17:16): It's so interesting. You and I have lived parallel lives. So did you immigrate as a child from Mexico?
Akary (17:23): was about two years old when I came.
Aneta (17:25): I was four when I came from Yugoslavia at the time. And so I spoke no English when I started kindergarten. So for me too, it was trying to find, like, what is this identity? How do I become more American? And then, when I visit family, how do I maintain my ethnicity? Right? So it's like, you're always trying to figure out what the rules are and how to keep the family pleased and also blend in.
I'm like, the last thing I wanted to do was be different. I mean, during the times when I was here, in the 70s, in elementary school, I'm like, that's not what I want to do. And so it's in, I find that that was something then that I was also doing in banking. And it's really funny because my minor, one of my minors was in women's studies in college, too.
I was a lit major with French and Women's Studies, and then I went into Banking. So crazy. So it was also kind of the same. don't know what it is. Maybe it's the one three and us, maybe you just had to do things the hard way, I felt like proving things. I'm not sure what the reason.
Akary (18:25): Part of it is that we can't...we can, but it doesn't allow us to be authentic and genuine. We get to go through these lived experiences so that we can help guide others through them. And knowledge and wisdom, right? Knowledge is very heavy, whereas wisdom is light because you've actually lived through it. to our coaching, to how we guide, to how we speak to others.
Aneta (18:52): Yeah. What would you say the human design definition is, or how do you like to think of the frequency for manifesting generators, which is what I am? And I know you and I are both one threes.
Akary (19:06): So, through the quantum lens, we look at manifesting generators as what we call time benders.
Aneta (19:15): I like that.
Akary (19:16): Yeah. See, the manifesting generator is here to find shortcuts to life. And so as you're building, you're building really a lot faster than a regular generator. So, where a generator is linear, and they call us alchemists, which is so crazy, right? Because I feel like I've lived a million lives. I'm much more linear. I like the process. I like to see that step kind of move through. With a manifesting generator, what I see is speed.
Aneta (19:46): Yeah.
Akary (19:48): And describe both of them, because you're a hybrid, you're a little manifestor, a lot generator. And so describe it as the tortoise and the hare. The tortoise is the generator. Like, if you want anything done, just call me, right? And the time bender is off. Looking at all of these different things and having all these passions and all of these projects moving, and the depth with which you finish a project is amazing. No one can compare it to because, as you're going through one project and the next, you're picking up things that normally, well, no one else is right because we're not as curious. Manifesting generators, tons of energy, a lot of just innate curiosity, which gets defined even more with that profile number three. So it's just very rich. One, three profiles are very interesting. And then, as a manifesting generator, even more, my partner is the same. So he goes down like these rabbit holes that I'm not interested in, like aliens, Bigfoot.
But it's so interesting because we start to connect all of these different dots, especially now the veil continues to thin and even more conspiracy theories start to come together. The great awakening is coming. And so we start connecting all these dots, and I find it so fascinating because when I have deep conversations and wide conversations, it's normally one or three profiles.
Aneta (21:22): Yeah, I love them too. My friend Sarah is a one-three, and she and I are always like, she's so in her head. She's a generator too. So it's so interesting. I love when she talks cause there's always so much wisdom there. Like, I just love listening to her process things, I'm sacral. So for me, I can get a really fast yes or no, or sometimes I don't feel anything, which then is like, I'm not going to do anything, but I think she has more of an emotional response, so she takes a little bit longer to kind of process things. So fascinating. With all of this, tell me how you work with clients. So if someone's listening and they're like, I've maybe heard of human design, but I'm not quite sure what that is. Or I definitely know that I'm burned out in stress. If someone were to contact you for the first time, what do you do? What does it look like for them to work with you?
Akary (22:09): I am not your traditional coach. Again, I do a lot of different experimentation. So at this point, I actually ask for lab work.
Aneta (22:20): Like bloodwork?
Akary (22:21): Yeah, blood work. I have a whole master class that I am going to be teaching that connects the dots between the human design life cycles and what kind of lab work you should be requesting from your functional doctor, or even a nutritionist that you may be working with. Because again, I like looking at the whole picture.
And that nine times out of 10, what I have found out with my clients who actually go get lab work is that they're insulin resistant or they're like right at the border of pre-diabetes. And when we start to understand the nervous system, we get to see that empty carbs give us empty promises. We're not getting the nutrition and the fuel. And the reason why my business is mind, body, soul is that if we don't focus on the body, the mind and the soul cannot be aligned.
Aneta (23:11): That is so interesting. And so you do the lab work back, and then you walk them through all, so what could that look like? What if someone is insulin resistant and maybe high cortisol, some of the traditional markers like that, some hormones maybe could be off. What are some of the things you would do next with one of your clients?
Akary (23:33): It really depends on where their life cycle is at and where they fall in. But I do a lot of education around trying to rebalance some of that. If they are, and most of the time it takes a little longer to get them to experiment with food because they're coming in and their nervous system is crashing. The first thing that I need to address is the fire under the hood, which is that they feel very dysregulated, really get a handle on either a panic attack, anxiety, or just insomnia. But as we start to calm down and allow the body to start feeling safe again, I start to introduce electrolytes into the normal water routine so they can start feeling safe here.
And then as we start to go deeper into it, I start to introduce what they should be having for breakfast because that to me biggest piece: if you're not having a savory breakfast with protein first, you're not setting yourself up to win for the day. So what you eat really is a reflection of your resiliency. And so I walk them through, and if they're really willing to, and I have done this with just a few of them, is teaching them how to create ketones in their body to lower inflammation so that all of these markers, these cortisol markers can start coming down, getting their sleep track, and then teaching them how to fast by constantly monitoring. I'm a data girl. I'm a one-three. It's all about the science. I love the woo, but I do love the data that I get from blood work, from these tools that we now have to help them see and start to manage, because what ends up happening with a lot of them is that if they're getting that 40-year mark, their metabolic system starts shifting. And so what came first, the chicken or the egg? Is it the job that's like wearing you down, or is it your metabolic system?
Aneta (25:36): Yeah, that's so good. What do you do for women in ⁓ their middle age, like menopause, maybe like mid 50s, who definitely have had some shifts, and maybe they're taking some hormone replacement, maybe they're not, but they definitely are noticing that their body's changing.
Akary (25:54): So a lot of that is, again, we go back to education. need to make sure, when they're in midlife, I ask them to go get a DEXA scan because when we're in our 40s and estrogen, that's when we start noticing that the bone density starts to decrease. And so when they go get a DEXA scan at this point, then they have a baseline. So they don't even have to worry about that until later, when they start noticing things, but they have that baseline so that they can tell if yes or no, they're going through some sort of osteopenia or osteoporosis. And then the vitamin D intake, how much time they're taking to do these tricks of how to be human. It's like reminding you how to go back to basics because we're so accustomed to being indoors, not moving, not doing anything, but sitting at a desk constantly, and that creates a lot of stress for the body. So I really do introduce that whole concept of going back to basics and reminding you to be human.
Aneta (26:56): Yeah. The second person who told me about the DEXA scan was in about a week. My friend Amy had it recently done. I know a little bit, but I would love for you to share with me what it is, and who would you ask for one of these scans?
Akary (27:00): So you would ask your general doctor for a DEXA scan because we're in the States, and depending on what your insurance looks like, if your mother or your grandmother had or has osteoporosis, then there's a chance that you may get it as well because it's hereditary, it's genetic. So I would really stress that with a practitioner so that
Akary (27:33): They can write to the insurance and get authorization for you to get one. I know here in Southern California, we're very fortunate. We have a company called BodySpec that goes through a lot of the different fitness locations in the area. And it's like maybe 50 to $100 for a DEXA scan. And what is an MRI machine? It just scans you. And it's measuring the density in your bones.
So the first stage is you start getting closer to what's called osteopenia. And then after that, that's when you end up with osteoporosis if you don't do anything about it. So I jump rope, and I walk with a weighted vest just to add weight, it's cause it's a weight loading thing.
Aneta (28:20): Yeah. Yeah. So jumping on a box, like some of the things you do across, fit jump rope, maybe the reformer, those kinds of things, right, are all pretty good for it. Yes.
Akary (28:29): The rebounder, right? Especially if you have mobility issues, the rebounder is really, really good to start just moving the body, everything in moderation, everything slow. know manifesting generators love to just get in there and do easy to see how your body starts to respond to things. And so those are the kinds of things that I started introducing a lot of the women that I work with, again, because I'm looking at the whole picture, especially when I'm working with women over 60 who no one told them to go do these things. It's harder to recover because here's the thing: even with osteoporosis, if you start doing the weight lifting with a weighted vest, you can reverse that bone density issue.
Aneta (29:14): That's great. That's amazing.
Akary (29:16): And of course, I'm a big proponent of bioidentical hormones for the same reason, because as we hit midlife, it's your brain, right? Alzheimer's, dementia. It is the metabolic system, which is insulin. Then we get the cardiovascular issues. And especially for women, our heart issues are not as traumatic as men's, big surprise. So we don't even know or are aware that we're having cardiovascular issues. We're looking at muscle, right? We lose muscle as we age. And then the bone density is the other big piece. So, that's why I'm a fan of these hormones. You have a lot of different people looking at things differently who shame you for But if your thyroid wasn't working,
No one would even blink to tell you, go get yourself. So, right. Well, yes and no. So the whole piece, right? I've gone down these rabbit holes because, really, of all the stress, my adrenal glands obviously were exhausted. And one of my burnouts happened to have happened and burned me out so much that my adrenals were gone, and I think they call it Hypo, hypothyroidism, yeah. And I was like, this just doesn't feel right. I was exhausted all the time, and I went to go see a naturopath, fed my adrenals, and I was done. I didn't have to take the hormone, but yes, it was definitely
Aneta (30:33): Hypothyroidism? Yeah.
Akary (30:52): Yeah. told to me that it was gonna be for life. And I was like, no, I'm not taking this Synthroid for life. And now, because of the stage of my life, I have subclinical Hashimoto's, which, by eating differently and making ketones in my body and then fasting accordingly, I have reversed that; all the antibodies are going backwards.
Aneta (31:17): I love this so much. I love being able to do preventative and regenerative. So I've heard so many mixed messages around fasting for women, maybe in menopause. Some people say it's too much on the body and increases cortisol. Some people are saying, no, it's actually a good thing to do. Where do you stand, or is it just individualized based on the person?
Akary (31:40): It is very much individualized. And again, I love tools. So I'm a big proponent of testing. And this is where we take our power back. So there's a little sensor called the Keto Mojo. And what you do is that you poke and you test your glucose and your ketones. You set yourself up for fasting. And when I walk women through fasting, not for X amount of hours. It's for however long it takes for your body to get to our goal. So I know how to look for, we're fasting for a goal. So once we hit it's called the GKI level of between one and three, where autophagy happens, where you're starting to renew your cells. Once you get that, then we feast. And when we feed, we're carb loading. I'm not a believer in zero carbs.
We all need carbs for our brains and kidneys. So it is about learning how to time all of this. So I tend to eat dinner like the old people between 3 and 5 PM because then I can just go ahead all night. By 5 in the morning, it's been 12 hours, and I'm still asleep.
Aneta (32:38): Yes. Yes. And you feel good, like you sleep better because your heart rate's not working hard, and your digestion. I eat early too for the same reason because I don't sleep well if I eat too close to bedtime. Just too hard on my system.
Akary (33:06): So it's the tracking. I walk women through the tracking. I don't believe that everything has to be done a particular way. I think women who, for example, have a broken leptin hormone. And what I am saying is that if their leptin is lower than four or above 10, we're looking at the leptin hormone, which tells us famine or feast, right? So if it's lower than four, your body is eating. It's eating all of your muscle because it's going into famine mode, where it doesn't know where it's going to be getting protein. So a lot of people who are skipping their protein, a lot of vegetarians, that ends up happening because it's hard to get protein from plants. So when your leptin is low, then it's your body eating itself.
When your leptin is high, right, the signal between the brain and the leptin hormone isn't connecting. And so there's no society. So you're eating more than what you should be eating.
Aneta (34:05): Wow, because you're not satiated. You're not getting the signal that you're satisfied or full. Interesting. This is so fascinating. I could talk to you forever.
Akary (34:09): Why I titled myself an emotional biohacker because I'm biohacking into the emotions. And again, we were not used to seeing ourselves as a whole. We see ourselves as separate pieces. So we don't look at mental health as being part of nutrition. We don't look at mental health as part of the movement. And so I bring a lot of that awareness back into basics. And as I said, it's a lab work away from really telling you where you need to go first.
Aneta (34:45): So good. And I love how there's so much hope with what you do, because you're saying this isn't forever, you can start to feel better, you can regulate, you can start to take control and be empowered with the decisions that you make. And there are tools to help you monitor, which just feels so good. It feels so good to know that there are options.
Akary (35:06): Living longer, right? Women are living longer. Why can't we live longer, conquer, and live fulfilled lives? Why do we have about Alzheimer's and dementia hip fractures? All of these things are avoidable as much as possible as long as what we do today sets us up for tomorrow.
Aneta (35:15): There you go. That's right. That's so good. Akary, and so if someone's listening and they're like, wow, I recognize myself and what you were describing, maybe they're dysregulated, maybe they felt horrible for a long time, or they just don't recognize themselves. What is the easiest way for them to find you?
Akary (35:47): My website is one that they can go to uhkare.com, or my favorite place to be in is Instagram because it's easy, and people can come and take a look at some of the information that's there. I love direct contact. I know I love meeting with people, talking with people, getting to understand what it is that's happening. Probably one of the people who just really enjoys touching base. So there's a link on my Instagram linktree to book a 30-minute chat. And let's just talk about what's going on.
Aneta (36:20): We'll definitely include those links in the show notes. I want everyone out. I will be scheduling a call with you, too, because I'm getting some blood work soon, so we can go through it. And for the final question, I ask everybody is what does it mean to you to live the width of your life?
Akary (36:21): Because I am a one three, I love going wide and deep and everything. I'm so curious about just turning all the stones. And I teach this in my wild woman Wednesday community, that there's a box of things that you know, you know, there's a box of things that you know, you don't know, right? I don't know how to cut open a heart. But there's a box of things that I don't even know that I don't even know, and that's the box that I'm chasing.
Aneta (37:05): So good. I love that. The box you don't even know. So good. You are just so delightful, and you are such a bright light in this world. Thank you for doing the amazing work that you are doing. I just wish you so much continued success.
Akary (37:20): Thank you so much for having me. It's a real honor to be able to serve women, both in my community as well as in your community now, and be accessible for those who really need some support. I don't believe that we all have to suffer alone. That lone wolf period is over.
Aneta (37:36): Yes, amen.